Giant Humans

[AnAsTaSiO]

I have been trying to do as much research as possible on Giants. At first, I was extremely skeptical. The idea of real Giants just sounds so absurd, however, the more I researched it, the more I started to believe that it was at the very least possible.

Apparently, there is a lot of evidence about Giants in the bible and other ancient texts. My problem there is that I tend to believe that most of the bible is wrong, so I feel like I would be a hypocrite if I would pick and choose what I want to believe.

Here are a few links I found interesting.

http ://www.gen esispark.c om/genpark/giant/giant.htm

http://p eter.chatt away.com/a rticles/giants.htm



[This message has been edited by AnAsTaSiO (edited 11-03-2006).]

[Martini]

Your links are broken up, but here is your first one: http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/giant/giant.htm

Is that what it takes for you to lose a bit of your skepticism regarding the existence of giants? It doesn't bother you that legitimate archaeologists never find giant bones?

Here are excerpts I found from a response on this website (bolding mine): http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/creationism/giants.html

quote:Also, on human giants "over ten feet tall," not a bone exists as evidence. I've contacted both Hovind and the creationist in Texas who made his own giant human bone out of plaster, a mere "model" as it says at his website, of what a giant human femur might look like.

quote:But the Mt. Blanco webpage admits that the "femur" pictured on their site is a sculpture that Mr. Taylor molded in order to illustrate a story. The story came from a letter published in an unnamed publication by an unnamed person, neither does the story mention "femurs." The letter states:

"In south-east Turkey in the Euphrates Valley and in Homs and at Uran-Zohra, tombs of about four meters long once existed, but now roads and other construction work has destroyed the spots. At two places, when unearthed because of construction work, the leg bones were measured about 120 cms [47" long]. It sounds unbelievable. I have lived with my family at Ain-Tell for more than 14 years at the very spot where King Nebuchadnezzar had his headquarters after the battle of Charcamish, where I dug the graves of kings' officers and found their skeletons like sponge, and when you touch them they become like white ash, with spears and silex and obsidian tools and ammunition laying by."

The author of the letter did not say "femur," but, "leg bones." Perhaps in the great state of Texas in the USA, where the Mr. Blanco [creationist] Museum resides, they refer to the "fermur" colloquially as the "leg bone" (singular), but the Middle Easterner who wrote the above letter referred to "leg bones" [plural] when he stated, "at two places... the leg bones [plural] were measured about 47" long." So the word "femur" was not mentioned at all, and leaving aside Texas colloquialisms, the "leg bones" in this case probably refers to all the bones of the leg, the total "leg" length. I wear 34-36" long pants, so my "leg bones" measure about 36." The "leg bones" mentioned above were maybe 11" inches longer than mine. Such a skeleton might be a few feet taller than me, as I'm only 6'3" tall, but not "14-16 feet tall" as the Mt. Blanco Museum calculates, based on their assumption that "the leg bones" must mean "femurs" (plural).

All in all, a human whose legs were 11" longer than mine is large, but not beyond the known range of human variation. See for instance: E. Cobham Brewer 1810-1897. Dictionary of Phrase and Fable. 1898 , "Giants of Real Life." Mr. Brewer collected a long list of "human giant" stories from throughout history and their alleged heights, and his conclusion, as stated at one point in his list, was that "...no recorded height of any human giant known has reached 10 feet... The nearest approach to it was Gabara, the Arabian giant (9 feet 9 inches) mentioned by Pliny, and Middleton of Lancashire (9 feet 3 inches) mentioned by Dr. Plott."

[Viraljimmy]

quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

My problem there is that I tend to believe that most of the bible is wrong, so I feel like I would be a hypocrite if I would pick and choose what I want to believe.

Only if you're a True Christian. I'm anti-christian and I still believe in alot of the bible. There are real places and events in there. Lot's of mythology and distortion too though.

[ate]

Would the bones still be "findable" by us, if there were so major geographical reversals and big big changes that took place on the surface of the earth?

[AnAsTaSiO]

There are many animals that live today that have not be discovered yet. Crytozoology deals with all that kind of stuff. The giant squid for example, was considered to be a myth until a live body was found.

If we have trouble finding bones for all the animals that live today, imagine thousands of years ago.

I am not saying I am postive that Giants once roamed the earth, but I do believe that you are dismissing them entirely too easily.

[Martini]

quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

I am not saying I am postive that Giants once roamed the earth, but I do believe that you are dismissing them entirely too easily.

I am not dismissing giants too easily whatsoever. There would need to be some rational reason or reliable evidence available for one to believe in the existence of human giants in the past; your links have shown none.

[Frontier Psychiatrist]

What exactly would constitute the title "giant?"

[karma_sleeper]

Niefilhim(sp?) in Genesis and the Book of Enoch which is part of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church's canon. They talk about the giant offspring of fallen angels breeding with human females.

[ArmsMerchant]

Check out the square-cube law before you get all het up about giants.

Unless one is aquatic, or has one heck of a good exoskeleton, one just doesn't get terribly big.

[AnAsTaSiO]

quote:Originally posted by ArmsMerchant:

Check out the square-cube law before you get all het up about giants.

Unless one is aquatic, or has one heck of a good exoskeleton, one just doesn't get terribly big.

I just looked up the square-cube law. I don't nescessarly think it elimnates the possiblity of giants.

And that is all I am saying, that giants, MIGHT have once lived on earth.

quote:Originally posted by karma_sleeper:

Niefilhim(sp?) in Genesis and the Book of Enoch which is part of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church's canon. They talk about the giant offspring of fallen angels breeding with human females.

This is something I found very interesting.

[This message has been edited by AnAsTaSiO (edited 11-04-2006).]