Argument for God

[Rykoshet]

Classic Descartes argument.

My friend says the foolproof argument for God's existence is "perfection". He claims nothing in this world is perfect, and that because nothing is perfect, the only way we have the idea of perfection is because God bestowed it upon us, as a little signature when he created everything. He supports this by saying "perfecto" or something in Gaelic means Godlike.

I'm trying to tell him that there's thousands of concepts not achievable or real, but merely an idea, and they were all made by humans. I'm trying to debunk his theory, but Descartes wasn't much of an idiot, and it's hard. I'm trying to write a list of a couple of ideas that do not appear in our world, and yet were created by man. Any ideas, or help on a counterargument?

[azalie]

wrong forum dick

[deadendgirl]

Your friend should read Plato.

[SilentMind]

Thats the gayest thing I've ever heard.

Heres the real proof that god exists:

You know how at certain points in your life, everything seems to fall apart at exactly the same time? Like in the same day...everything you took for granted gets stripped from you at the same time? You lose your job, your woman, your friends, and you find yourself completely and utterly alone without any way to pay your rent?

The universe isnt capable of such perfect synchronization. Thats gods touch right there.

[king koopa]

quote:Originally posted by SilentMind:

Thats the gayest thing I've ever heard.

Heres the real proof that god exists:

You know how at certain points in your life, everything seems to fall apart at exactly the same time? Like in the same day...everything you took for granted gets stripped from you at the same time? You lose your job, your woman, your friends, and you find yourself completely and utterly alone without any way to pay your rent?

The universe isnt capable of such perfect synchronization. Thats gods touch right there.

Jee, God sure is an asshole.

[SilentMind]

quote:Originally posted by king koopa:

Jee, God sure is an asshole.

Thats kind of the whole premise of christianity. Havent you ever read the bible?

[Spike Spiegel]

quote:Originally posted by king koopa:

Jee, God sure is an asshole.

seconded. We don't need him. It's funny how only when we are weak that we blame supernatural beings to come to our help.

[AeroDynamic]

What if God was one of us?

[deadendgirl]

quote:Originally posted by SilentMind:



Thats kind of the whole premise of christianity. Havent you ever read the bible?

You're assuming he's talking about the Christian God. But regardless, most Christians haven't even read the Ten Commandments, let alone the Bible.

[Spike Spiegel]

quote:Originally posted by SilentMind:



Thats kind of the whole premise of christianity. Havent you ever read the bible?

No, my friend, have you...

www.truechistian.com

There are many versions of "gods" word. God must have been very sloppy, considering he is perfect and all...