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Old 2007-06-19, 06:33
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Exclamation Why I don't believe in god!

Let me first state that I believe in Occam's Razor -- The principle that entities should not be multiplied needlessly; that the simplest of two competing theories is to be preferred.

One of the strongest arguments in favor of God's existence IMO is that Earth is a complex object of some sort, a very complex mechanism. The argument makes the assumption that complex objects always have a creator. Therefore our universe's complexity implies an intelligent creator --- God.

This argument can be summarized with the simple question "If god doesn't exist, then why are we here?"

However, I see a gaping flaw with the argument. God is itself a complex object and thus according to the assumption made by the argument God needs a creator.

We can give God a creator, but then that creator needs a creator so we regress into an infinite paradox of causality.

So we'll just have to accept that not EVERY complex object needs a creator, that certain extraordinary objects can just poof into existence.

So we have 2 theories:

1. God 'poofed' into existence and created the universe.

2. The universe 'poofed' into existence.

Occam's Razor says the 2nd theory is superior.

Many people counter this argument by saying that god has special properties, that he is beyond causality and that asking "what created god?" or "what came before god?" is inane. But why can't these same properties simply be applied to the universe?
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