My religious beliefs, as explained to a friend on msn
alright, i just had a discussion with my friend, where i explained my religious beliefs to her. she pretty much didn't know what to believe, but i think she may have adapted all (if not some) of my ideas. tell me what you guys think. and, sorry in advance if my beliefs were already told by somebody else.
Keep in mind, there are many other things i haven't discussed yet that people may question, but i'll get to that later.
Susan says:
I was baptised as a "catholic" which was not my choice of course cuz i was a baby so i don't really believe in that kind of thing at all
mike says:
as was I
mike says:
all i believe that they tought me
mike says:
was that jesus was a guy who taught people a way of life that would benefit everyone and just had a nice way of living and interacting with people
mike says:
not the other stuff
Susan says:
It just seems kind of iffy with me i mean i know that we need to trust the thought that he might or might not be there
mike says:
but think about this.....
mike says:
all the things (human condition, state of mind, etc..) were supposedly made BEFORE God said it wasn't ok, so it's as if he wants us to suffer. so, yeah, it's bullshit
mike says:
all the things that made you wanna sin
mike says:
he made us want to do
mike says:
so, i call bullshit
mike says:
but here's the thing
mike says:
i think jesus was a real guy who came down and taught as about a better way of living, as did Buddah and such other "prophets"
mike says:
but the people were so obsessed that they turned it into something it's not
mike says:
and turned the poor guy's life into a story that negatively influences everyone
Susan says:
Exactly, that's a really good way to look at it
mike says:
yeah
Susan says:
I'm just glad neither of us is exactly all that religious when it comes to talking about this. Because, i've known people to freak out at the thought of atheist which is just obserd
mike says:
don't get me wrong, i like the fact that christians like to practice a religion where they have to be good to other people, i just don't like the whole threat of hell.
mike says:
however, i'm not athiest
Susan says:
Well, technically neither am i. But, i really wouldn't consider myself anything at this point. Because i don't know believe in some things that some or most religions believe in. So, i guess you could say i am my own religion
mike says:
exactly as i am
mike says:
however
mike says:
because i believe that my "religion" is exactly pinpointed based on my beliefs, i don't think it should be a religion, just What Is
mike says:
it's like saying if you believe in evolution, then it's a religious belief or religion
mike says:
it's not, it's just an idea you think is right
mike says:
even if your life revolves around it
Susan says:
Yeah, i'm really glad at this point that we can agree with eachother on most of these parts. Because, from what i so far see in you from the other side of my computer. You're a dominant person and that's great. but, so am i and that would just be bad in my opinion to argue about "religion"
mike says:
but, because of the fact that whatever "religion" is correct is inevitable, so a simple exchange of ideas wouldn't be considered an "arguement", because it's not a suitable topic for arguement
mike says:
if u don't mind me asking, what are your views on the afterlife?
Susan says:
Honestly, i'm still thinking about that at this point. But, so far i would have to say....that i think there is an afterlife it might not be in this magical place that people call heaven or hell. Sadly, to me i look at it in two different views.
mike says:
may i give you my views on the matter? after you're done speaking, of course...
Susan says:
Sure, you can go ahead now. Because, honestly i'm just iffy on the subject of afterlife. I'd rather not think about things like that i guess is why
Susan says:
I honestly love hearing your opinions
mike says:
well, first off, i think we do have souls. (i don't know whether "we" should refer to people, all animals, all living things, but w/e). anyway, because of the direct and proven spiritual connection related to sleep (lucid dreams, OBEs) i think that once our body stops, our minds (meaning souls, not brains) go back into a spiritually connecting dream state, but (i'm still typing hold on)
mike says:
but break a link with out bodies, putting us in a state where we can experience a permanent lucid dream-like "heaven", an ideal state created in our minds, because of spiritual connections, and possible shared dreams, i also think you can interact with other souls that are not in the body, perhaps even souls that are still inside people, (based on ghost sightings, aliens, etc...).(i'm typing)
mike says:
in such case, because of the lost limitations of our physical bodies, i think we can return to life (again, either in all animals, just humans, etc) on Earth, where we know life exists, but perhaps on other places where there is physical life
mike says:
the good news is...
mike says:
once we die, we enter a state of infinite information on the universe, so at every other spiritual point in our existence, we'll come to the same realization i came to now
mike says:
but here's two varying beliefs i've been working on
mike says:
it could be that humans are the only ones capable of forming spiritual ideas, thus making them the only ones that have souls. it could be though, that animals have an even more dominant idea, in which case, they'd have souls too. but, i've been considering one celled living particles, plants, etc...which could have them too. and then i asked myself, why would you choose to come back as each...
mike says:
different life form. and i found an answer...
mike says:
because each person's existance is kind of dependent on the fact that something made us (i think we all form "god", each and every soul), i think we may have an actual emotional (spiritually or physically related) need to contribute to each other's physical existance. don't get me wrong, i think that we could create new physical forms and such, but Earth was created for the vast forms of (hold on)
mike says:
interaction between souls. so, i think, souls (people, entities, whatever) who are dedicated become long living animals that support the ecosystem, humans, etc... and souls who want to have little part, and who don't want to have any pressure if something goes wrong, play their part by being one of many plants, cells, etc....
mike says:
but here's the thing with people who thought they could change things for the better....
mike says:
such people who fucked up as george bush, hitler, etc...
mike says:
when they die (or already died) they're going to realize that everything was already ideal, both in their spiritual form and in the physical world, thus, they'll understand that what they were doing wasn't the mission they sent themselves down for. that, along with other factors, should (and will) make them feel like dicks for getting influenced beyond their spiritual forms in the physical world,
mike says:
but, alas, certain parts were beyond their countrol
mike says:
however, some weren't
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so, in short, they fucked up a good portion of their existance
mike says:
but it's ok (or will be when they die and come into realization)
mike says:
but there is a bad trait in me
mike says:
i can't stand people's ignorance to my ideas, even though everyone didn't (or couldn't) come to my realizations.
mike says:
such as when people mourn for important people
mike says:
they all say it's bad the person died after having had an amazing life
mike says:
but
mike says:
after that person dies, comes to his or her realizations, and realizes that they did help using their chance in the physical world, that person is going to be the happiest person in the situation
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