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2007-08-27, 09:41
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Give up our mind to become god?
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Originally Posted by Rolloffle
According to the Bible, when man was first created he was perfect and would never die; however, man's sin separated him from God and introduced death into the world.
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If man was created to the true will of God, God should have made that man didn't act in a sinful way. The only reason why we act to the ways of sin is because of our human curiousity, Which leaded to our 'above all standing species' that we are. If the evolutionary point where we started to think 'different' is the point where we realised we were above all of God's creatures, isn't that certain point then the moment where we became our own God?
In other terms, if people would follow their instinctive feelings more rather than their brain, wouldn't that take us one step closer to God?
After all it was God that said that a childs mind is the purest of all.
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2007-08-27, 12:06
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Re: Give up our mind to become god?
I am God. You are God, and we all are God.
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2007-08-27, 13:43
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Re: Give up our mind to become god?
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord
After all it was God that said that a childs mind is the purest of all.
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Really? 
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2007-08-27, 15:57
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Re: Give up our mind to become god?
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord
If man was created to the true will of God, God should have made that man didn't act in a sinful way. The only reason why we act to the ways of sin is because of our human curiousity, Which leaded to our 'above all standing species' that we are. If the evolutionary point where we started to think 'different' is the point where we realised we were above all of God's creatures, isn't that certain point then the moment where we became our own God?
In other terms, if people would follow their instinctive feelings more rather than their brain, wouldn't that take us one step closer to God?
After all it was God that said that a childs mind is the purest of all.
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Personally I believe that eating from the tree of good and evil is a metaphor of sorts for our loss of innocence, and that our loss of innocence was neccesary fro us to become true human beings. We had to be aware of right and wrong to achieve God's likeness. I would then say that sin is neccesary to posses free-will, as when you perform an act you can evaluate how right or wrong it is and it is the knowledge of right and wrong that brings with it the concept of sin... Or something...
Personally, from what I've read, and from what I think it should be the very opposite of following our impulses. If we were innocent, then yes, following our impulses would be fine, but when you throw such things as pleasure, greed and so on you find that our impulses are slightly less righteous.
The natural instincts are not neccesarily towards sin, but include sin. To use the Bible, Wisdom is often praised, and stupid people are, well, called stupid, from what I've read an emphasis is put on thinking about your actions, and maitaining self-regard, as opposed to following instincts. Those said to be wise think about what they say and do, whereas the fool follows instinct.
So, from a Christian view, no, I don't think instincts our instincts are a path to God.
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2007-08-27, 16:01
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Re: Give up our mind to become god?
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord
In other terms, if people would follow their instinctive feelings more rather than their brain, wouldn't that take us one step closer to God?
After all it was God that said that a childs mind is the purest of all.
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What do your instincts say?
EDIT: Your also confusing the 'brain' with the inquisitive nature of humans - it's almost instinctive for us to be curious about the things we don't know.
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2007-08-27, 16:07
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Re: Give up our mind to become god?
We were all created in God's image. Therefore we all have the power in ourselves to become like God, but no man will ever be able to destroy God himself. God created your life, and he and he alone has the power to take it away. Never dare cross him, because he is more powerful than you could ever imagine.
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2007-08-27, 18:42
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Re: Give up our mind to become god?
We are All One--and that "we" includes God--in no way are we separate. I have been taught, and accept as true, that you can't understand God, you can't define God, and you can't contain God--God being infinite and all.
However, if you don't look at yourself, you can be God.
You are the eyes with which God looks, and the mind through which God understands itself.
And life--life is eternal, immortal, immutable--it never began, so it can never end. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be.
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"Love is infallible; it has no errors, for all errors are the want of love." -- William Law
"The astrolabe of the mysteries of God is Love." -- Rumi
Last edited by ArmsMerchant; 2007-08-31 at 18:25.
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2007-08-27, 23:13
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Re: Give up our mind to become god?
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Originally Posted by ArmsMerchant
We are All One--and that "we" includes God--in no way are we separate. I have been taught, and accept as true, that you can't underrstand God, you can't define God, and you can't contain God--God being infinite and all.
However, if you don't look at yourself, you can be God.
You are the eyes with which God looks, and the mind through which God understands itself.
And life--life is eternal, immortal, immutable--it never began, so it can never end. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be.
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 Nice.
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2007-08-27, 23:26
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Re: Give up our mind to become god?
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Originally Posted by ArmsMerchant
We are All One--and that "we" includes God--in no way are we separate. I have been taught, and accept as true, that you can't underrstand God, you can't define God, and you can't contain God--God being infinite and all.
However, if you don't look at yourself, you can be God.
You are the eyes with which God looks, and the mind through which God understands itself.
And life--life is eternal, immortal, immutable--it never began, so it can never end. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be.
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Cool opinion.
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2007-08-27, 23:50
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Re: Give up our mind to become god?
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Originally Posted by ArmsMerchant
We are All One--and that "we" includes God--in no way are we separate. I have been taught, and accept as true, that you can't underrstand God, you can't define God, and you can't contain God--God being infinite and all.
However, if you don't look at yourself, you can be God.
You are the eyes with which God looks, and the mind through which God understands itself.
And life--life is eternal, immortal, immutable--it never began, so it can never end. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be.
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Taoistic.
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