what if..

Clifford the Big Red Bong · #1 2007-11-20, 17:35

religion, and atheism, are both wrong? what if there is some "other side" to reality? what if the reason no entities from that place ever help us, is because we decided we did not need their help no matter how much it may feel like we do once we were on this side?

maybe we're all here, doing and thinking exactly what we wanted to be doing to achieve... something.

crackhead · #2 2007-11-20, 17:38

I approve!

Hare_Geist · #3 2007-11-20, 17:49

Atheism and religion can be simultaneously wrong if and only if there is a God not conceived of by any religion, for atheism only says there is no God; it says nothing about whether or not there is an "other side", a spiritual life.

SAS25 · #4 2007-11-20, 20:56

What if athiesm/monothiesm/polythiesm is wrong because... *drum roll*. They are just human creations! We are just animals, on a rock in space. The only gods/magic is the laws of nature. When an object is unsupported it falls... gravity wooo. You dont hear me building a church about it though. Just because there is things that at one point are beyond our comprehension doesent mean we need to start making up gods to explain it. In antiquity they thought the gods controlled the rising sun, the weather, the seasons. Nice story, but that is all it was, an entertaining story. Same with god.

Howard.Stern · #5 2007-11-20, 21:05

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Originally Posted by SAS25

What if athiesm/monothiesm/polythiesm is wrong because... *drum roll*. They are just human creations! We are just animals, on a rock in space. The only gods/magic is the laws of nature. When an object is unsupported it falls... gravity wooo. You dont hear me building a church about it though. Just because there is things that at one point are beyond our comprehension doesent mean we need to start making up gods to explain it. In antiquity they thought the gods controlled the rising sun, the weather, the seasons. Nice story, but that is all it was, an entertaining story. Same with god.

Wouldn't that make atheism right?

joecaveman · #6 2007-11-20, 23:16

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Wouldn't that make atheism right?

Separate "what if...", but yes it would.

Clifford the Big Red Bong · #7 2007-11-21, 01:22

i dont really believe in "god". not in any typical sense anyway. i dont believe there is some uber-being separate from all consciousness, much less one that like, rules/controls everything.

is atheism just a way of saying one doesnt believe in god? i thought they didnt believe in an afterlife or souls or any of that junk.

Howard.Stern · #8 2007-11-21, 01:50

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Originally Posted by Clifford the Big Red Bong

i dont really believe in "god". not in any typical sense anyway. i dont believe there is some uber-being separate from all consciousness, much less one that like, rules/controls everything.

is atheism just a way of saying one doesnt believe in god? i thought they didnt believe in an afterlife or souls or any of that junk.

well, most of that stuff is associated with god, most people that believe like you do call themselves pantheists, as in everything is god, and so forth.
I think. I may be a little off on that one however.

SAS25 · #9 2007-11-21, 05:28

Pantheism! Brilliant. I never liked the terms mono/polytheistic. And I am not an atheist, so there it is, I have found my word. I am a pantheist, and I am god.

KikoSanchez · #10 2007-11-21, 08:13

I don't see anything in pantheism but superfluousness. If all of the universe is god, then we can just cut out this word god altogether.