Satanism, the answer to all the questions.

hazode · #1 2007-12-23, 16:42

"Many lies have been told about Satan and his Demons. These lies have been forced upon people and fear has been used as a weapon for hundreds of years. Satan and his Demons are NOT EVIL!! They are the ones who brought knowledge to humanity, so that we can be free. Satan is our True Creator God. The Christian god is false. Christianity is not a religion, it is a program to stop people from knowing about and using the power of their minds (witchcraft). Satan has been treated bad by those who hate him for no good reason and who hate humanity and try to enslave us. They want to keep spiritual knowledge and power in the hands of a few." - www.joyofsatan.com.
I came across this website from youtube, i was watching this banned cartoon which included the angel, satan. If you read the passage it sort of makes sense. People burnt people who practised whichcraft back in ye olde days, so it sort of makes sense. leave comments?

l33t-haX0r · #2 2007-12-23, 19:48

It's as big a pile of bollocks as all the rest of them.

---Beany--- · #3 2007-12-23, 21:08

"Demons" are not evil red looking monsters. They may have been depicted that way in art and movies, but they are representations for what people call "Inner demons".
Demons are fears, and they have been depicted as being evil because fears are the main cause (if not the only) of so called evil acts.

Edit: To take it further, Hell is depicted as a place where demons reside. This is true. When a person is full of fear and dread, they are in hell, because their lives are full of "Inner" demons.

MilkAndInnards · #4 2007-12-23, 23:58

Satanism is just as bullshit as Christianity. No matter how much other shit is included in Satanism, Laveyan or other wise, it's still based around a Christian concept.

Satanism also encourages you to be a prick and help yourself, encourages you to make stupid decision, and it seems it's main focus is to oppose Christianity.

Although I back such people up when they're opposing Christianity (Christian fuckers killing off my ancestors for their faith and land and oppressing them for 1000 years). Apart from that Satanism is something most people realise is dumb and grow out of. If you were an Atheist before hand I don't see why you need a book to tell you how to live now.

Silverwolf69 · #5 2007-12-27, 14:00

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Originally Posted by MilkAndInnards

Satanism is just as bullshit as Christianity. No matter how much other shit is included in Satanism, Laveyan or other wise, it's still based around a Christian concept.

Satanism also encourages you to be a prick and help yourself, encourages you to make stupid decision, and it seems it's main focus is to oppose Christianity.

Although I back such people up when they're opposing Christianity (Christian fuckers killing off my ancestors for their faith and land and oppressing them for 1000 years). Apart from that Satanism is something most people realise is dumb and grow out of. If you were an Atheist before hand I don't see why you need a book to tell you how to live now.

No, it's not a christian concept, I'm sure you'll find many people align themselves with the "religion" (if you can call it a religion) because it is the common name for the set of beliefs, although I find it distasteful assigning it with a name as there can be no real name for an ever changing set of beliefs that are usually determined by the individual thinker.

Ask any intellectual Satanist (a rare delicacy, unfortunately. Something which you won't find at the JoS as the more intelligent steer away from them) and their beliefs will be so complex and incomplete that explaining them to you would be a difficult task indeed.

LaVeyan Satanism (I cannot stress this enough, it is NOT TRUE SATANISM! He has used the name but claiming this is real Satanism is like claiming Scientology is real science, a bullshit claim at best) is the only sect I can think of that encourages you to be a prick.

True Satanism indeed encourages you to help yourself, but not be selfish and discount others, as you need others to be your best and others need you to be their best. And what stupid decision might Satanism encourage?

All in all the aim of Satanism is to advance the human race, which is why it highly opposes religion and militant atheism as all of these things turn father against son, mother against daughter, sibling against sibling and friend against friend thus yanking humanity back with a mighty heave and leaving us to pick ourselves out of the dust to move forward once again. Fortunately this is what we are beginning to do, slowly yes, but we are beginning to do it.

Do not dismiss what you do not understand, Satanism is more complex than people think, which is why real Satanism is usually kept under strict wraps and only those deemed worthy can join their sects...I have much work to do before I am accepted into one of my choosing, if I indeed choose to align myself with one.

---Beany--- · #6 2007-12-27, 16:24

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Originally Posted by Silverwolf69

Do not dismiss what you do not understand

Good words, and does anyone really understand anything?
What you say here can be applied to anything and everything.

MilkAndInnards · #7 2007-12-29, 04:08

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Originally Posted by Silverwolf69

Do not dismiss what you do not understand

I do understand it. I actually own a Satanic bible. I used to be a LaVeyan Satanist. Then I dismissed it.

evilman · #8 2007-12-29, 06:46

i practice the occult in my own way... i used to be a laveyan satanist, and i know that the joyofsatan is crap... the whole thing is basically a scam set up by a crazy fat chick and her pedophile/ neo-nazi boyfriend

Silverwolf69 · #9 2007-12-29, 10:11

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Originally Posted by MilkAndInnards

I do understand it. I actually own a Satanic bible. I used to be a LaVeyan Satanist. Then I dismissed it.

Let me ask you something, have you read why I wrote? I already dismissed LaVeyan Satanism as NOT REAL SATANISM! It's bullshit, do some research on real Satanism. I'd start by having a look at http://www.theisticsatanism.com, Order of the Nine Angles and Temple of the Black Light, read those sites and thus begins your journey of scratching the surface of what it means to be a Satanist.

Gackt · #10 2007-12-29, 13:22

It's kind of a strange fuzzy feeling when you think about it, supposedly the darkest and evilest one in the universe, is actually on our side, like when a foe becomes a friend. Nothing should prevent us from learning the truth though. I'm just wondering why the leaders want to stop us from learning the truth, is it so they can scare us and brand us as we were sheep? It must be this acquired knowledge that they fear we might one day all possess and overturn those in power for the greater good. Sorry I'm having extreme delusions of grandeur on acid right now.