why athiests are wrong

[shuu]

Everything has a creator, look around you cars, buildings, houses, dirt bikes, country clubs, napalm, etc. So why is it that the world and the universe wouldn't have a creator?
Everyone knows that God made people, it is obvious that people didn't come from monkeys. If they did then why are teh monkeys still around then? My great great great great great grandfather was a monkey and his great great great great grandfather was a fish and that fish just came out of nothing? How come you don't just see sludge coming to life now if that is what happened billions of years ago. If you say that this all happened billions and billions of years ago then that was so long ago that you can say anything happened back then.
God is powerful and stuff so how can he be powerful and all knowing if he doesn't even exist? That doesn't make sense to say that God doesn't exist because that contradicts everything about him doesn't it.
Also what about the bible? Does the bible just not exist either? The bible says that god exists and he created the world so if god doesn't exist then how come the bible says it?

[joecaveman]

Originally Posted by shuu

Everything has a creator, look around you cars, buildings, houses, dirt bikes, country clubs, napalm, etc. So why is it that the world and the universe wouldn't have a creator?

Just to set the record, entirely possible in my opinion.

Everyone knows that God made people, it is obvious that people didn't come from monkeys. If they did then why are teh monkeys still around then?

We didn't evolve from monkeys as we know them, but we all share a common ancestor.

My great great great great great grandfather was a monkey and his great great great great grandfather was a fish and that fish just came out of nothing?

You obviously have not grasped the concept of evolution. Are you trolling? I can host Darwin's book if you want, I suggest you read his theory before you bash it.

How come you don't just see sludge coming to life now if that is what happened billions of years ago. If you say that this all happened billions and billions of years ago then that was so long ago that you can say anything happened back then.
God is powerful and stuff so how can he be powerful and all knowing if he doesn't even exist? That doesn't make sense to say that God doesn't exist because that contradicts everything about him doesn't it.
Also what about the bible? Does the bible just not exist either? The bible says that god exists and he created the world so if god doesn't exist then how come the bible says it?

Hahaha, oh I see. Alright.

[shuu]

Originally Posted by joecaveman

Just to set the record, entirely possible in my opinion.

Since everything in this world has a maker, it is logical to assume that the world has a maker too.

We didn't evolve from monkeys as we know them, but we all share a common ancestor.

We all share a common ancestor in Adam, but monkey's aren't included in that. Humans did not evolve from monkeys, monkeys and humans were created the way they are, humans share a common ancestor in Adam.

You obviously have not grasped the concept of evolution. Are you trolling? I can host Darwin's book if you want, I suggest you read his theory before you bash it.

According to evolution I have an ancestor who is a monkey and an ancestor of that ancestor was a fish. If I have fish and monkey in my background why wouldn't I have fish and monkey DNA just like if I had duck or chinese in my background I would have duck and chinese DNA?

[joecaveman]

Originally Posted by shuu

Since everything in this world has a maker, it is logical to assume that the world has a maker too.

Sorry, in my first post I didn't mean it's possible that we were designed. I meant to say it's possible that the universe has/had a creator and that I'm not a strict atheist.

It is simply not logical to assume that the world has a designer based on the fact that many things in the world are designed. If you aren't a troll, it appears you have very little capacity for critical/free thought.

Originally Posted by shuu

According to evolution I have an ancestor who is a monkey and an ancestor of that ancestor was a fish. If I have fish and monkey in my background why wouldn't I have fish and monkey DNA just like if I had duck or chinese in my background I would have duck and chinese DNA?

You don't understand the theory, I'll host the book for you if you'll download it. Please read it, take it with a grain of salt, decide if you want to believe it.

It's been a while since I've read it, I don't remember every detail and I'm not about to sift through it and explain it step by step for you...

[AngryFemme]

Originally Posted by shuu

Also what about the bible? Does the bible just not exist either? The bible says that god exists and he created the world so if god doesn't exist then how come the bible says it?

Do fairies and goblins not exist? Are you sure? Because there are several series of books written by J.R.R. Tolkien that says they do...

The books surely exist, because I have copies of them on my bookshelf and I am eyeballing them right now. The books exist, therefore the content inside must exist as well.

See how silly that is?

[monotoned]

Originally Posted by shuu

According to evolution I have an ancestor who is a monkey and an ancestor of that ancestor was a fish. If I have fish and monkey in my background why wouldn't I have fish and monkey DNA just like if I had duck or chinese in my background I would have duck and chinese DNA?

Scientifically, DNA from all living things are made out of the same conponents, basically nucleotides with bases attached to them all linked together with different bonds.

So a duck's DNA is actually the same as our DNA, only in a different sequence and maybe shorter.
But then again, your DNA is also sequenced different from my DNA...
And if you're interested, bacteria actually has highly evolved DNA replicating systems, higher than ours. (Just wanted to add that)


BTW, have you ever wondered, did Adam and Eve have bellybuttons?
If they did, didn't that mean someone gave birth to them?
If they didn't, doesn't it mean we got selected (or "evolved", if you prefer, but I think "selection" is a better word) which complements "the survival of the fittest" (it's a Darwin thing)

[Clarphimous]

Originally Posted by monotoned

BTW, have you ever wondered, did Adam and Eve have bellybuttons?
If they did, didn't that mean someone gave birth to them?
If they didn't, doesn't it mean we got selected (or "evolved", if you prefer, but I think "selection" is a better word) which complements "the survival of the fittest" (it's a Darwin thing)

Your logic is about as bad as a Creationist's.

The bellybutton is a scar from the umbilical cord. According to the second creation story of Genesis, God made Adam out of dust and Eve from part of Adam (usually translated as a rib bone). He could've made them with a bellybutton if he felt like it, or without one. But because of the way that humans reproduce (placental animals) there's an umbilical cord and therefore any children they had would have had a bellybutton, regardless of whether Adam and Eve had been "sculpted" with any.

[The_Big_Beef]

Originally Posted by monotoned

And if you're interested, bacteria actually has highly evolved DNA replicating systems, higher than ours. (Just wanted to add that)

Actually, the replication of bacterial DNA is much less controled than ours leaving it more vulnerable to mutations.

[launchpad]

Actually, those things you mentioned have many creators (houses, cars, dirt bikes, etc.) All of these things contain materials that were produced and handled by different people all down the line. Does this mean that you are a polytheist? Because these things all have many creators wouldn't it logically follow that we too have many creators? As do the trees, birds, oceans, etc.?

[KikoSanchez]

Actually, all matter that exists in the universe (as we know it) has come about naturally, without any entity which is its designer/creator. If you are talking about houses, cars, etc, well those are all just mental constructs made from said matter. So has the natural world been designed or created by some entity? We have no example of such an instance, so I don't see why.