All "proof" that God exists is circumstantial at best!

[Knight of blacknes]

Greetings fellow Totseans,

I work in law enforcement so I know what I'm talking about when I say circumstantial evidence.

Let us begin with Christianity. They put great faith in the great Book, the Bible. What the Bible says is the word of God. What they claim is that the Bible cites historical facts, logic and the essence of mathematics and thus must be coherent and right. This is not a truth for sure. Let us presume for a moment that the book is written in lets say: 400 AD. A writer could cite actual historical names he knows of and mingle them in the story with fictional characters to give them historical authority whilst its actualy just a lie. In 400 AD people had ample of knowledge about mathematics, logic, ethics, and a great many other things. The idea of One God is not new either. Worshipping the Aten is much older and holds many similarities to modern One God religions. (1 God, 1 Messenger)

More about Atenism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atenism

The Bible alone, without any it giving any source from hence it got its unique information is not enough to stand as evidence. Its historical facts can be traced through other sources but the unique information it gives cannot be found in any other source. Thus the Bible is circumstantial evidence. This method of giving historical authority is not uncommon among ancient writers and can be found in many great books including Sun Tzu's Art of War the bible of warfare. However I must say that this does not always meen that all that is written are lies, it might very well be that its truth that sounds circumstantial and that the author tried to convince the reader of the fact with other facts he could easily proof. Thus I can't proof that the Bible is the thruth but I cannot say its lies either.

Almost all single God religions (monotheistic religions) draw their strength from a book or a collection of books or writings with similar stories and meanings as the Bible.

Call me an Agnostic but proof me wrong on this thesis.

[---Beany---]

Here are my thoughts on proving god.

Originally Posted by ---Beany---

I don't think it's possible to prove God exists to another person, which is why it's pointless to ask someone for proof or to attempt to provide it.

I think the only way is to discover for yourself.
Which I think the quote "No-one can be shown the matrix, you have to see it for yourself", from the Matrix is saying.(Bearing in mind it also depends on what your understandings of God are).

Although I admit that even if you do find what you believe to be proof, there is always possible other explanations for what you think you've experienced such as it being entirely your deluded imagination.

Personally I've experienced states of consciousness in which I experience a reality that resembles what spiritual teachers talk about. It's awesomely deep, real and gives me a deeper understanding of what "Life" "God" and "Heaven" might be.
In fact the state of consciousness I'm talking about reminds me of what it felt like to be a child, before my mind got crammed with knowledge, meanings, labels and all sorts of other data. Maybe that's worth thinking about.