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Old 2009-01-04, 01:52
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fact: every day, thousands of jews rally each other over the internet to mass comment on anti-israeli stories, disrupt social networks like digg, reddit, del.icio.us, and others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool
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Old 2009-01-04, 02:12
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fact: every day, thousands of jews rally each other over the internet to mass comment on anti-israeli stories, disrupt social networks like digg, reddit, del.icio.us, and others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Me...his_serious.3F

LOL!!! Check out that discussion page there. The kikes get caught red-handed and have the audacity to scream "ANTISEMITISM" like a bunch of whiny ass non-existent gas chambee's. Fucking disgusting.
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Old 2009-01-04, 17:17
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fact: every day, thousands of jews rally each other over the internet to mass comment on anti-israeli stories, disrupt social networks like digg, reddit, del.icio.us, and others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool
that is so lame. i almost feel ashamed to be a jew now
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Old 2009-01-04, 22:10
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that is so lame. i almost feel ashamed to be a jew now
I'm ashamed of my sentence fragment.
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Old 2009-01-04, 22:45
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The Jewish people have faced some of the harshest persecutions ever metted out by human society throughout the history of their existance.

It almost appears to be part of being a Jew. The realisation that you will face some form of persecution for who you are.

Extreme examples of persecution through history would be the German Crusade of 1096, expulsion from England in 1290, the spanish inqusition and expulsion from Spain in 1492, expulsion from Portugal in 1497 and of course the holocaust. Not to mention the thousands of pogroms agaisnt Jews that took place thoughout history.

The Jews have suffered immensly throughout history. One would be hard pressed to find any other religious, racial or cultural group that has faced as much persecution as the Jew have.

So throughout history the Jewish people have lived with this cloud of hate over them. Something that would make any nation suspicious of any percieved threat against their livelehood and existance.

Living like this will creates a sense of paranoia that will permeate from generation to generation.

This is why Israel defends the land they have with such ferocity, because history suggests that if they loose that land they will have nothing left. They will be exterminated.
Antisemitism, has no logic what so ever. I cannot fathom how being Jewish can enrage and encite people to commit such horrid atrocities.
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Old 2009-01-04, 23:02
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The Jewish people have faced some of the harshest persecutions ever metted out by human society throughout the history of their existance.

It almost appears to be part of being a Jew. The realisation that you will face some form of persecution for who you are.

Extreme examples of persecution through history would be the German Crusade of 1096, expulsion from England in 1290, the spanish inqusition and expulsion from Spain in 1492, expulsion from Portugal in 1497 and of course the holocaust. Not to mention the thousands of pogroms agaisnt Jews that took place thoughout history.

The Jews have suffered immensly throughout history. One would be hard pressed to find any other religious, racial or cultural group that has faced as much persecution as the Jew have.

So throughout history the Jewish people have lived with this cloud of hate over them. Something that would make any nation suspicious of any percieved threat against their livelehood and existance.

Living like this will creates a sense of paranoia that will permeate from generation to generation.

This is why Israel defends the land they have with such ferocity, because history suggests that if they loose that land they will have nothing left. They will be exterminated.
Antisemitism, has no logic what so ever. I cannot fathom how being Jewish can enrage and encite people to commit such horrid atrocities.

Of course that's it. The Jews never did anything either. They were simply persecuted over and over and accused of the same things for over a thousand years because people just didn't like them.
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Old 2009-01-05, 00:30
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I cannot fathom how being Jewish can enrage and encite people to commit such horrid atrocities.
Well Jews themselves go astray, it's the zionists that constantly call them out on being self-hating jews if they don't engage in pushing the agenda, whatever it is. There is no statistic that reliably tells us how many jews have left the full-blown jew lifestyle, integrating into whatever the host country happens to be, because their culture is very tight-knit.
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Old 2009-01-05, 01:05
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The Jewish people have faced some of the harshest persecutions ever metted out by human society throughout the history of their existance.
10,000 years worth of societies cannot be wrong.

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It almost appears to be part of being a Jew. The realisation that you will face some form of persecution for who you are.
That's part of being human.

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Extreme examples of persecution through history would be the German Crusade of 1096, expulsion from England in 1290, the spanish inqusition and expulsion from Spain in 1492, expulsion from Portugal in 1497 and of course the holocaust. Not to mention the thousands of pogroms agaisnt Jews that took place thoughout history.
Examples of atrocities perpetrated upon black people include the Arab slave trade, trans-Atlantic slave trade, Tuskegee studies and segregated housing. Examples of atrocities committed against the Chinese include the Unit 731 experiments; far worse than the holocaust I might add, but you don't see them whining.

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The Jews have suffered immensly throughout history. One would be hard pressed to find any other religious, racial or cultural group that has faced as much persecution as the Jew have.
So have the Chinese, Armenians, Irish and just about every other ethnic group on the planet. One would not be hard pressed to find other religious, cultural or racial groups that have faced as much persecution as the Jew. And I'd like to add that there is no such thing as a Jewish race.

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So throughout history the Jewish people have lived with this cloud of hate over them.
So has everyone else.

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Living like this will creates a sense of paranoia that will permeate from generation to generation.
This does not justify criminal activity.

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This is why Israel defends the land they have with such ferocity, because history suggests that if they loose that land they will have nothing left.
I'm certain Palestinians felt the same way before the Jews raped them for it.

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They will be exterminated.
Hopefully so.

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Antisemitism, has no logic what so ever.
It does.

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I cannot fathom how being Jewish can enrage and encite people to commit such horrid atrocities.
10,000 years worth of societies cannot be wrong.
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Old 2009-01-05, 02:17
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The Jewish people have faced some of the harshest persecutions ever metted out by human society throughout the history of their existance.
There are usually reasons.

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It almost appears to be part of being a Jew. The realisation that you will face some form of persecution for who you are.
I would advise you ( as a Jewish person, I assume?) to differentiate between "who you are" and "what you do". I personally tend to believe that Jews are persecuted for what they do, not for who they are.

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Extreme examples of persecution through history would be the German Crusade of 1096, expulsion from England in 1290, the spanish inqusition and expulsion from Spain in 1492, expulsion from Portugal in 1497 and of course the holocaust. Not to mention the thousands of pogroms agaisnt Jews that took place thoughout history.
Ok this might a lil out of the scope of this debate but, why did the Jews insist on living among racial/cultural/religious aliens, who on top of all that, actively sought to kick them out? Why didn't they just up and leave? Was it because the Jews did not have their own homeland, or what? If that's the case, how did they even evolve into a people in the first place? (you need a land on which to live, prosper, and multiply)

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The Jews have suffered immensly throughout history. One would be hard pressed to find any other religious, racial or cultural group that has faced as much persecution as the Jew have.
This may be true, however I am sure it must happen for a good reason. People don't tend to just wake up one day and say, "hey, those Jews look different and worship a different god than us, let's get them!!!"

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Living like this will creates a sense of paranoia that will permeate from generation to generation.
Actually I think what happened was, those who were less paranoid tended to be more open towards having relationships with gentiles, and this conceivably led to intermarriages, leaving the more paranoid ones behind who tended to stick to themselves. You do this for enough generations you eventually will end up with a people who exhibit traits of paranoia (among others).

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This is why Israel defends the land they have with such ferocity, because history suggests that if they loose that land they will have nothing left. They will be exterminated.
Well, I don't blame them. However I just wish they would not be so ruthless to Palestinians/non-Jews.

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Antisemitism, has no logic what so ever. I cannot fathom how being Jewish can enrage and encite people to commit such horrid atrocities.
You keep thinking it's about "being Jewish". It's not. It's about doing certain disagreeable things that Jews disproportionately have a propensity for.
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Old 2009-01-05, 11:08
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I'm no Jew, hell I couldn't even direct you to the nearest synagogue, but what I fail to understand is what have they done wrong?

What did the Jew's do to Hitler or Germany for that matter? Did the Jew's invade them? Did the Jew build camps and enslave their population?

What are Jew's doing to you now, that is oppresive, hateful or otherwise wrong?

What have Jew's done in your mind that justifies their persecution through the ages? Is it their religious dogma, is it their cultural values, what is it?

The general theme of your responses, is they desereve it. What have they done to deserve it?

10,000 years worth of societies can't be wrong? Or is it more the case that 10,000 years worth of societies found themselves in a stronger, more dominate position and because the Jewish people had no land, it was easy to subjugate and oppress them?

The atrocities committed by slave traders etc and segregation pale in comparsion to the decimation of millions of a population. Unit -731? 580,000 deaths because of military based chemical and biological warefare experiments there. These were chinese, russian and even some american people, no specific religious entity was targeted purposefully for complete destruction. A completely different scenario.

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Ok this might a lil out of the scope of this debate but, why did the Jews insist on living among racial/cultural/religious aliens, who on top of all that, actively sought to kick them out? Why didn't they just up and leave? Was it because the Jews did not have their own homeland, or what? If that's the case, how did they even evolve into a people in the first place? (you need a land on which to live, prosper, and multiply)
How did christians evolve into a people? From their humble begginings and expansion from Rome onwards? They never had their own land, yet they also chose to settle in lands which were not there's and faced persecution for that? Yet, christianity also evolved into a people that prospered and multiplied.

If its not about being Jewish, then what is it?

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