People who say others should not get offended

[bigteddy13]

Originally Posted by ductape

But that is not a reasonable reaction. The person wearing the shirt caused the problem, not the one reacting.

This. The person that is offended has no choice as to whether or he or she is offended. In this case I would go with the person being offended.

But, there are people that are just old assholes and have to whine and bitch about stuff to make themselves feel good. In this situation I would just give the dude the finger or something

[Spiphel Rike]

Originally Posted by The Return

There are quite a few of the people who I'm going to talk about on these forums. These are the kinds of people who feel they are entitled to wear a t-shirt that says "niggers like fried chicken" to a Juneteenth celebration without being addressed. These people feel that no one has the right to be offended by any public gesture, t-shirt, or similar piece of information. Do you sympathize with their beliefs or do you feel they are only mad about this because they have been scorned and humiliated publicly or most likely had their asses beaten, or both? Do these people have legitimate concerns or do they simply want to get away with acting like a badass without actually having to back it up? I'm interested in what the community has to say.

If wearing a tshirt gets you punched it means someone is a little bitch who can't take a simple insult

If I was to smack the hell out of anyone who'd called me a "white cunt" over the years I would have some sore sore knuckles and would probably be in jail. If that's the standard for me it should be the standard for the rest.

There are things which you shouldn't be able to do, but wearing a shirt or calling someone a name should be seen as just that. If you can't keep your hands to yourself because someone insults you then perhaps you should wrap yourself in bubble wrap and stay in your house.

[emag]

In my opinion, someone who takes offense to something shows a lack of self-confidence &/or an inferiority complex, and a preoccupation* with other people's opinions.

I am not easily offended because I am confident that I am better than anyone who tries to offend me and, since I'm better than them, their opinion doesn't mean shit anyways and I could not care less about what they think or say.



*I think there's a better word for that but I cannot think of it now.

[Belle]

^They've got an inferiority complex,

you've nurtured one of superiority.

Both ego defense mechanisms, aggressive and passive.

The choice works both ways; you can choose to offend someone, or not to, as well as choose to be offended, or not to be.

But the fact is, even if you say you don't have the intention of offending, we're still living in a world that frowns violently upon say, wearing your fashionable conical white hoodie to the million man march.

[Mars]

Originally Posted by ductape

Would you be mad if 10 kids at your school/10 coworkers wore a shirt that had them buttfucking your naked mom on it?

Have some common decency and try to make this world a little better for all of us. It is your fault when you wear something that the average person would be offended by.

But who is this average person? Who makes the rules about these sorts of things? I understand how applying a racial slur to someone of ethnic descent would be unacceptable. Firstly, one can be offended by the attempt to offend them. Secondly, taboo terms with historical reference carry more weight. But surely it would not be a problem if every member of the affected group could move on and actively decide not to be offended by these insults.

A phrase that is thrown around is 'don't let it get to you'. Many people misconstrue this, believing that if they pretend not to be bothered by aggravation, it will cease. What it really means is that, if you are no longer bothered by an individual's insults, you will no longer be bothered by an individual's insults. If everyone could take this attitude, there would be no way to insult them. Words that we consider taboo now would become acceptable, which is no bad thing because nobody would care.

Why does there have to be a subculture of censors that get offended by this sort of stuff? Common decency, before physical altercations etc, is what we make of it. It is not about preservation.

[emag]

Originally Posted by Belle

^They've got an inferiority complex,

you've nurtured one of superiority.

That's the first time I've ever heard the term superiority complex and upon reading the wikipedia article on it I can say that I have about half of those traits. That's an eye opener. Thanks

[Punk_Rocker_22]

Look, when some black guy wakes up in the morning and goes out to buy some coffee he doesn't say to himself "hmm, what can I overreact to today?"

When you wake up and put on a "fuck niggers" tshirt, you know its going to piss people off.
It doesn't matter if they should be offended or not, just that they will be offended and you know they will. Sure, you can argue that they shouldn't get offended, but you are still making a choice to do something that you know will offend someone.

Its all about conscious choice. An emotional response isn't a conscious choice (for most people).


Now, there is always the natural complainer who likes to take offense at everything. I would have to say the line is draw if the message is insulting or not.

Example:
"I hate Christianity" is an insulting statement. You have a right to be offended at that

"Don't believe in God? Don't worry, you're not alone." - That's not insulting anyone; its providing support for fellow atheists. For a christian to get offended at that is just stupid.

More examples:
"Fuck gay people" - insulting
"I'm going to have gay sex in the privacy on my own home" - not insulting
"You're going to hell" - insulting
"I don't believe in a god" - not insulting
"Drugs are bad" - You are essentially saying that drugs are bad, and therefor the people who use them are doing something wrong. I would argue that this is insulting.
"I choose not to do drugs" - This on the other hand is not insulting

Seeing a pattern?
Good. If the message you're spreading is insulting, then theres nothing wrong with people getting offended by it.


On top of all this, why would you want to wear a potentially insulting shirt anyways. Can't we all be friends?

[bigteddy13]

Originally Posted by Punk_Rocker_22

Look, when some black guy wakes up in the morning and goes out to buy some coffee he doesn't say to himself "hmm, what can I overreact to today?"

When you wake up and put on a "fuck niggers" tshirt, you know its going to piss people off.
It doesn't matter if they should be offended or not, just that they will be offended and you know they will. Sure, you can argue that they shouldn't get offended, but you are still making a choice to do something that you know will offend someone.

Its all about conscious choice. An emotional response isn't a conscious choice (for most people).


Now, there is always the natural complainer who likes to take offense at everything. I would have to say the line is draw if the message is insulting or not.

Example:
"I hate Christianity" is an insulting statement. You have a right to be offended at that

"Don't believe in God? Don't worry, you're not alone." - That's not insulting anyone; its providing support for fellow atheists. For a christian to get offended at that is just stupid.

More examples:
"Fuck gay people" - insulting
"I'm going to have gay sex in the privacy on my own home" - not insulting
"You're going to hell" - insulting
"I don't believe in a god" - not insulting
"Drugs are bad" - You are essentially saying that drugs are bad, and therefor the people who use them are doing something wrong. I would argue that this is insulting.
"I choose not to do drugs" - This on the other hand is not insulting

Seeing a pattern?
Good. If the message you're spreading is insulting, then theres nothing wrong with people getting offended by it.


On top of all this, why would you want to wear a potentially insulting shirt anyways. Can't we all be friends?

I agree with all except the very last sentence lol.

[Spam Man Sam]

Theres a fine line between poor taste and expressing yourself. Wearing a shirt that says 'niggers suck' to a Juneteenth celebration is just stupid, what would the person hope to acomplish?

Drawing a political cartoon that depicts niggers as the savage beasts they are would be more productive.

[Punk_Rocker_22]

Originally Posted by Spam Man Sam

Drawing a political cartoon that depicts niggers as the savage beasts they are would be more productive.

Originally Posted by Punk_Rocker_22

Can't we all be friends?

This is why I stopped posting on totse for a long time. If you find the wrong sections when you're a teenager you can end up pretty racist. I'd suggest you stop posting and grow up a little bit. You'll come around and realize we're all just people trying to get by.