People who say others should not get offended

[Sex Panther]

Originally Posted by Punk_Rocker_22

Look, when some black guy wakes up in the morning and goes out to buy some coffee he doesn't say to himself "hmm, what can I overreact to today?"

When you wake up and put on a "fuck niggers" tshirt, you know its going to piss people off.
It doesn't matter if they should be offended or not, just that they will be offended and you know they will. Sure, you can argue that they shouldn't get offended, but you are still making a choice to do something that you know will offend someone.

Its all about conscious choice. An emotional response isn't a conscious choice (for most people).


Now, there is always the natural complainer who likes to take offense at everything. I would have to say the line is draw if the message is insulting or not.

Example:
"I hate Christianity" is an insulting statement. You have a right to be offended at that

"Don't believe in God? Don't worry, you're not alone." - That's not insulting anyone; its providing support for fellow atheists. For a christian to get offended at that is just stupid.

More examples:
"Fuck gay people" - insulting
"I'm going to have gay sex in the privacy on my own home" - not insulting
"You're going to hell" - insulting
"I don't believe in a god" - not insulting
"Drugs are bad" - You are essentially saying that drugs are bad, and therefor the people who use them are doing something wrong. I would argue that this is insulting.
"I choose not to do drugs" - This on the other hand is not insulting

Seeing a pattern?
Good. If the message you're spreading is insulting, then theres nothing wrong with people getting offended by it.


On top of all this, why would you want to wear a potentially insulting shirt anyways. Can't we all be friends?

Will you be my friend?



Anyway, i'm not going to say any of the replies here are right or wrong. It's a matter of opinion. I'm not going to say its WRONG to wear a t-shirt that says niggers love friend chicken. I would love to own a t-shirt like that. But that doesn't mean its necessarily socially acceptable.

If i think niggers love friend chicken, ill be damned if anyone is going to stop me wearing that shirt. But I won't be expecting to be let into any pubs.

punk rocker, i think it's morally kind of hazy to categorise things like that. For example -

Which is worse:

1. Niggers love fried chicken.

2. I think niggers love fried chicken.

[JustAnotherAsshole]

People who say that think it gives them a free pass to say whatever the fuck they want.

Fortunately, I'm hearing it less and less.

[Punk_Rocker_22]

Originally Posted by Sex Panther

Which is worse:

1. Niggers love fried chicken.

2. I think niggers love fried chicken.

That's the same as saying:

"You are an idiot"

"I think you are an idiot"

Both of them are insulting.

Its also impossible to use racial slang in a phrase and not have it sound insulting. You might as well say "[stupid fucking dirty piece of shit black people] like fried chicken."

Do I think its wrong for blacks to call each other niggers? Not at all. If you drop a plate and it breaks its fine if you say to someone "oh, I'm such a goof." Its not alright for someone to say to you "You are such stupid cunt, you can't even hold a plate you dumb bitch."


Look, I support free speech, but why would you want to use hate speech in the first place? Nothing good can come from that. You want to argue opinions, that's fine. But there is a reason derogatory terms and ad hominem arguments are left out of debates.

"In a recent study it was found that while African Americans make up 13% of the US population, they account for approximately 21% of the KFC purchases. We believe this stems form the fact that the population density of black citizens is greater in the south where fried foods are more popular."

"Niggers be eaten up all that fried chicken yo. Ima go fuck my sister and drive my pickup to my local clan meeting. KKK for lyfe! [fires shotgun]"

EDIT:

Originally Posted by JustAnotherAsshole

People who say that think it gives them a free pass to say whatever the fuck they want.

Fortunately, I'm hearing it less and less.

Originally Posted by JustAnotherAsshole

It warms my little heart to know that the minority of people who think like you is ever shrinking.

I like you.

[Spam Man Sam]

Originally Posted by Punk_Rocker_22

This is why I stopped posting on totse for a long time. If you find the wrong sections when you're a teenager you can end up pretty racist. I'd suggest you stop posting and grow up a little bit. You'll come around and realize we're all just people trying to get by.

Yes that true, theres good and bad in each race. The negro race, statistically, has the most violent and dangerous underclass.

[JustAnotherAsshole]

Originally Posted by Spam Man Sam

Yes that true, theres good and bad in each race. The negro race, statistically, has the most violent and dangerous underclass.

Probably because they've been some of the poorest people ever since they came to America.

Btw, "Came" is my Euphemism for "Were stolen from Africa to work for free".

[Martian Luger King]

No, it's probably because their average IQ is 80 and therefore they lack the cognitive ability to appreciate the idea of a consequence for crime. Even the rich blacks in this nation are all in trouble. Michael Vick anyone?

[nincumpoop]

Originally Posted by ductape

But that is not a reasonable reaction. The person wearing the shirt caused the problem, not the one reacting.

But they're two completely different people they have nothing to do with each other. if i went to africa and people were wearing t-shirts saying "Wiggers like ice cream" I wouldn't be even remotely offended and would probably laugh. I don't give a shit about someone else's opinion if they have nothing to do with me... there is no need for me to, And i don't think there is a genuine reason that others should either. They're just trying to complain about something to get themselves noticed.

All this bullshit about racism pisses me off, Fair enough if someone is killed because they're a different race then things are getting serious and it should be racism, But People try and play that fucking card all the time. Absolutely no need for it.

[illuminatikiller]

What the fuck is Juneteenth?

[Fanglekai]

Originally Posted by illuminatikiller

What the fuck is Juneteenth?

http://www.juneteenth.com/
Juneteenth is the oldest nationally celebrated commemoration of the ending of slavery in the United States.

From its Galveston, Texas origin in 1865, the observance of June 19th as the African American Emancipation Day has spread across the United States and beyond.

Today Juneteenth commemorates African American freedom and emphasizes education and achievement. It is a day, a week, and in some areas a month marked with celebrations, guest speakers, picnics and family gatherings. It is a time for reflection and rejoicing. It is a time for assessment, self-improvement and for planning the future. Its growing popularity signifies a level of maturity and dignity in America long over due. In cities across the country, people of all races, nationalities and religions are joining hands to truthfully acknowledge a period in our history that shaped and continues to influence our society today. Sensitized to the conditions and experiences of others, only then can we make significant and lasting improvements in our society.

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/juneteenth1.html
Origins

On June 19, 1865, the Union General Gordon Granger rode into Galveston, Tex., to inform inhabitants of the Civil War's end two months earlier. Two and a half years after Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, Granger's General Order Number 3 finally freed the last 250,000 slaves whose bondage, due to the minimal Union presence in the region, had been essentially unaffected by Lincoln's efforts. June 19th—which was quickly shortened to "Juneteenth" among celebrants—has become the African-American addendum to our national Independence Day, for, as Juneteenth jubilees remind us, the Emancipation Proclamation did not bring about emancipation, and the prevailing portrayal of Independence Day ignores the ignominious incidence of slavery entirely.

Evolution

Observance of Juneteenth has traditionally tended towards church-centered celebrations featuring food, fun, and a focus on self-improvement and education by guest speakers. Although initially associated with Texas and other Southern states, the Civil Rights Era and the Poor People's March to Washington in 1968, in particular, helped spread the tradition all across America—to the extent that Milwaukee and Minneapolis now host two of the largest Juneteenth celebrations in the nation.
Juneteenth Today

The state of Texas made Juneteenth an official holiday on Jan. 1, 1980, and became the first to grant it government recognition. Several states have since issued proclamations recognizing the holiday, but the Lone Star State remains alone in granting it full state holiday status, a day when government employees have the day off. Nonetheless, supporters and celebrants of Juneteenth continue to grow in number and in diversity; today, Juneteenth is promoted not only as a commemoration of African-American freedom, but as an example and encouragement of self-development and respect for all cultures.



Google is your friend.

[The Methematician]

Originally Posted by ductape

It is your fault when you wear something that the average person would be offended by.

No, it's their phault for being so sensitive....

like do you blame the sun for hurting your skin,...or do you just put on sun screen when you go to the beach ??