IQ and intelligence

[Star Wars Fan]

IQ sucks ass. Autistic people (mainly "lower functioning") get the stigma of being 'retarded'. The IQ test is bullshit perpetuated by neurotypicals
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=28489

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Star Wars Fan

IQ sucks ass. Autistic people (mainly "lower functioning") get the stigma of being 'retarded'. The IQ test is bullshit perpetuated by neurotypicals
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=28489

So you're brilliant idea is to try prove one mental functions test wrong by using another mental functions test? Genius.

Call me crazy but the fact that autism is caused by having a fucked up brain tends to give people the impression that autism is to blame rather than the IQ tests.

Oh, btw, both tests in your article are actually IQ tests.

[DerDrache]

A little tidbit that slipped my mind:

The Black/White (and White/Asian) gap can be erased by controlling for "stereotype threat" (the fear of confirming a negative stereotype that subsequently hurts cognitive abilities while test-taking). In terms of experimental variables, this includes the ethnicity of the experimenter, the purported purpose of the test (ie. intelligence test versus a generalized test), and the knowledge of a future comparison with another group.

http://www.uiowa.edu/~grpproc/crisp/crisp.10.13.html (look for the page headers for pages 192 through 194)

This article provides a summary, though particular attention should be paid to Steele and Aronson's 1995 experiment, which you can find more about on google.

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by DerDrache

A little tidbit that slipped my mind:

The Black/White (and White/Asian) gap can be erased by controlling for "stereotype threat" (the fear of confirming a negative stereotype that subsequently hurts cognitive abilities while test-taking). In terms of experimental variables, this includes the ethnicity of the experimenter, the purported purpose of the test (ie. intelligence test versus a generalized test), and the knowledge of a future comparison with another group.

http://www.uiowa.edu/~grpproc/crisp/crisp.10.13.html (look for the page headers for pages 192 through 194)

This article provides a summary, though particular attention should be paid to Steele and Aronson's 1995 experiment, which you can find more about on google.

I'll read it since you read some of mine although I did mention already that I agree that external factors can have a biological influence. Right now I am reading an evil racist propaganda book called A Distant Thunder and then I gotta go cook up some baby Jews for supper so I have energy for all the lynchings we got to get done tonight.

[taoskin99]

There is no such thing as a good intelligence test because intelligence hasn't been properly defined yet. How can we measure intelligence if psychologists everywhere disagree on it's definition?

IQ tests don't test objective intelligence, they test knowledge of the cultural perception of intelligence. You can learn intelligence tests and become good at them. A true intelligence test would give the same results to a person no matter how many times he or she would do it.

They are highly discriminatory and jugements based on the results of an intelligence test should be avoided at all costs.

[dal7timgar]

Originally Posted by taoskin99

There is no such thing as a good intelligence test because intelligence hasn't been properly defined yet. How can we measure intelligence if psychologists everywhere disagree on it's definition?

My 1969 psychology book said, "Intelligence is what intelligence tests measure."

Psychologists can talk circular logic with the best of them.

Dumb ass psychologists. LOL

DT

[Star Wars Fan]

Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

So you're brilliant idea is to try prove one mental functions test wrong by using another mental functions test? Genius.

yes, given it is more fitting with the autistic mindset, raher than neurotypicals forcing their stuff on neurodiverse people.

Call me crazy but the fact that autism is caused by having a fucked up brain tends to give people the impression that autism is to blame rather than the IQ tests.

it's a neurological condition. Lol @ 'fucked up brain'

Oh, btw, both tests in your article are actually IQ tests.

yeah...that still points out how those tests tend to suck because it's designed for certain people...

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by Star Wars Fan

yes, given it is more fitting with the autistic mindset, raher than neurotypicals forcing their stuff on neurodiverse people.

Ok.

it's a neurological condition. Lol @ 'fucked up brain'

Yes lets all be pc about it. A neurological condition caused by fucked up brain functions & actually physically fucked up brains. That's what causes it. It can be caused by a car accident.

yeah...that still points out how those tests tend to suck because it's designed for certain people...

Actually it doesn't prove anything other than autistic children needing different tests because they have problems communicating like normal children because of their fucked up brains.