How can Muslims be non-radical?

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Originally Posted by Rust

Wrong. You claimed the following:

"Nowhere does the OT state that the punishments are supposed to be carried out at the whim of man."

He provided you with biblical verses giving man the right to smite his servants so long as they live. Smiting can be used as punishment. Unless you can show how the bible explicitly says that man cannot use smiting as a punishment, you stand refuted.

This rust covered man just successfully showed how you were wrong. Sad.

No, actually I don't stand refuted. You're committing a logical fallacy, Rust.

The slave is subject to God's law, yes; but also his owners. You are taking the owner-slave relationship's variation from the God-man relationship and treating them as the same. In the case of owner-slave, the slave is property, and may be beaten for any reason the owner wishes so long as it does not kill the slave - and the slave is also to be given freedom after 6 years of bondage. That is, the slave has only two rights under God's law: life and freedom at seven years. He is given no punishment under God's law for any of His actions, as the slave is under the stewardship of his owner. There do exist, in the Law, examples of the difficulties a harsh master will face, and the eases a soft master will enjoy - but these are not written laws that the owner must obey for a man is given into slavery because his own will fails, as such, he is subjected to the will that does not. Still though, the OT never states that the master should punish his slaves.

I do appreciate him bringing up the subject of slavery though, as it is the one area of the Law that is suggestive only.