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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |

2003-06-18, 05:26
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Let me tell you why no one cares..wait, there's too many reasons=/
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2003-06-18, 06:04
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quote:Originally posted by Hammer&Sickle:
but you will never be able to prove or disprove that he exists, so I suggest you should take the benefit of the doubt,
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Which side gets the benefit?
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quote:I have a feeling God exists, things that cannot be explained or haven't yet been explained by Science,
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I have no such feeling. In fact, I have a feeling that God doesn't exist. Whose feeling is more valid?
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quote:therefore I look to God, I mean isn't more comforting to know that someone always loves you and he will always forgive you and that there is a life after this one?
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You're right! If it makes you feel good, it must be true!
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quote:My theory hasn't been completely bugged out, and it probably never will, but this is about as close as I can get to making sense.
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And since people haven't disproven my theory about the planet made entirely of bees ten thousand light years away (and probably never will), I will continue to espouse it to all who will listen.
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2003-06-18, 06:25
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"You're right! If it makes you feel good, it must be true!"
Did he say it was 100% true? .... don't jump to conclusions.
Im assuming you are an atheist, couldn't he say the same thing about your atheist belief?
"And since people haven't disproven my theory about the planet made entirely of bees ten thousand light years away (and probably never will), I will continue to espouse it to all who will listen."
You already did. And he expects/deserves the same understanding/respect that you expect/deserve.
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2003-06-18, 17:50
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quote:Originally posted by Rust:
Did he say it was 100% true? .... don't jump to conclusions.
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I don't see why people feel they need to believe anything.
The only thing that I have to base on faith is that logic is logical. Everything else follows from there.
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quote:Im assuming you are an atheist, couldn't he say the same thing about your atheist belief?
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If atheism is a belief, then so is your dismissal of my bee-planet theory.
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quote:You already did. And he expects/deserves the same understanding/respect that you expect/deserve.
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Oh, I understand all right. He is yet another theist/spiritualist who has decided to enlighten us all with his baseless beliefs.
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2003-06-19, 07:09
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"I don't see why people feel they need to believe anything.
The only thing that I have to base on faith is that logic is logical. Everything else follows from there."
That was smart. You start by saying, "I don't see why people feel they need to believe anything" and then end with the belief that logic is logical... Brilliant.
"If atheism is a belief, then so is your dismissal of my bee-planet theory."
Exactly. Did I question that in any way? Your theory could be right, just as his..
"Oh, I understand all right. He is yet another theist/spiritualist who has decided to enlighten us all with his baseless beliefs"
Lets say the same to you:
He is yet another atheist who has decided to enlighten us all with his baseless disbelief.
You see, you tried to "bash" him for "preaching" yet you ended preaching yourself.
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2003-06-19, 22:07
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That was smart. You start by saying, "I don't see why people feel they need to believe anything" and then end with the belief that logic is logical... Brilliant.
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Alright, that wasn't a great argument. However, belief in logic requires a lot less faith than belief in theism.
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quote:Exactly. Did I question that in any way? Your theory could be right, just as his..
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No, it couldn't. My theory is utterly ridiculous. If you don't scoff at that, what *will* you scoff at?
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quote:He is yet another atheist who has decided to enlighten us all with his baseless disbelief.
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Without proof, disbelief is a natural state, and as such is a reasonable position. IE. is not baseless.
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quote:You see, you tried to "bash" him for "preaching" yet you ended preaching yourself.
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I'm not preaching. I really couldn't care less whether I "convert" anyone. (ooh, look at my clever use of quotation marks)
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2003-06-20, 00:56
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When you die, you rot in the ground, just like your dog Smokey. I dont see why that's so hard to comprehend. Why make death and life so fancy? You're here on earth because your mom and dad fucked. And chances are, thousands of years ago, we were a little bit more hairy than we are now. Thousands of years before that, we resembled fucking apes. lol, some guy looking over us 'protecting us'.. Doesnt that sound a little too much like a fairy tale to all you that believe in a supreme being?
-Lovley
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2003-06-20, 02:08
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“However, belief in logic requires a lot less faith than belief in theism.”
That is an opinion not a fact, thus it means nothing.
“No, it couldn't. My theory is utterly ridiculous. If you don't scoff at that, what *will* you scoff at?”
It cannot be right? I never said it was 100% certain, or that it was the most probable circumstance, just that it COULD be possible. Even if theres a .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of it being true, its still possible.
And again, it being ridiculous is an opinion, not a fact.
“Without proof”
Er… That is what baseless means.
“ooh, look at my clever use of quotation marks”
Yes, I love using “quotation marks”, if you think they are clever, then even better…
If they bother you that much, I’m truly sorry for you.
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2003-06-20, 04:16
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Wow, you guys really built off wha i said. Well Craftian and Rust or whatever Rusty. You guys mix your intelligence and voacbulary with your opinions. I suggest you write a book! But seriously if you want an intelligent discussion on what you are talking about i suggest you cut your opinions out of it
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2003-06-20, 18:59
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what are you going on about you hypocryt. you jsut expressed your opinion, everything anyone says is an expression of opinion. if you say the car IS black, but that is jsut your opinion because that is how you percieve the colour of that car. but if you where to look through the eyes of a bird you would see it white. so therefore you have jsut expressed your opnion and mixed it with vocab, coz if u hadnt mixed it with vocab you wouldnt have written anything. so why dont you go write a book!!
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