why i don't believe in god

[Raz]

It depresess me of how so many people throw their lives away to the lie of "god". They sing songs to "god", they pray to "god", they go to church to "god" and all that other shit. It just depresess me.

[WeEdAnDBoOzE]

quote:Originally posted by Raz:

It depresess me of how so many people throw their lives away to the lie of "god". They sing songs to "god", they pray to "god", they go to church to "god" and all that other shit. It just depresess me.

true. instead of going to church they should just get some pussy or something or do some tripping.

umm dude your post about me being a hypocrite? umm let me explain something to you here is my post:

Wow, you guys really built off wha i said. Well Craftian and Rust or whatever Rusty. You guys mix your intelligence and voacbulary with your opinions. I suggest you write a book! But seriously if you want an intelligent discussion on what you are talking about i suggest you cut your opinions out of it

now the part "You guys mix your intelligence and voacbulary with your opinions..........But seriously if you want an intelligent discussion on what you are talking about i suggest you cut your opinions out of it"

is important and taken out of that

"if you want an intelligent discussion on what you are talking about i suggest you cut your opinions out of it"

and out of that "intelligent discussion"

here is your post:

what are you going on about you hypocryt. you jsut expressed your opinion, everything anyone says is an expression of opinion. if you say the car IS black, but that is jsut your opinion because that is how you percieve the colour of that car. but if you where to look through the eyes of a bird you would see it white. so therefore you have jsut expressed your opnion and mixed it with vocab, coz if u hadnt mixed it with vocab you wouldnt have written anything. so why dont you go write a book!!

Now I am not a hypocrite because 1.) I did not express my opinion in an intelligent discussion or pertaining to one, therefore I did not contradict myself, thus I am not a hypocrite.

Errors in your post: "everything anyone says is an expression of opinion" that is false 1.) because there is always a truth therefore no opinion, only fact. "if you say the car IS black, but that is jsut your opinion because that is how you percieve the colour of that car." The car is definitely black because that is the way light bounces off that object. That specific color unlike red or green or blue, is always definite and is always the same for all animals. A bird might not be able to see a color and only a shade of gray but that does not mean that it is an opinion if someone sees the actual color. There is always a fact, and the example you gave was fact therefore there is no opinion. You are extremely new to this forum, and so am I but not as much. But I have been on Forums alot more evidently than you have, so I am trying to show you how to word your posts, and to avoid people like me who can easily prove you wrong. I want to make sure you don't learn the hard way that you will if you do not read and follow what i just said

-regards



[This message has been edited by Hammer&Sickle (edited 06-23-2003).]

Weed and Booze, well if you agree to that, I think we can all agree that it is much more comforting that someone loves you always and alwasys listens to you than having to know that there is nothing beyond this life and that no one loves you and that you are on your own. For some it might but for me I prefer to know that someone is always there for me and is waiting for me when I die

[Lovley]

There is no "God" watching and loving and shit.. Because it's people who control their lives.. If I wanted to, I could go to where you live with a shotgun and that'd be the end of you.. "God" wouldnt stop me. So no matter what, you're not going to feel his protection while you're here on earth. (Totally being hypothetical here.. I could never harm anyone for no reason, much less kill them with a reason or not.)

Ha, "God" listens to you? You're talking to a wall. You can pray for your dad to get a job, but chances are he wont.. And that's not because 'God" works in mysterious ways, it's because he's not there. The Bible and religion is perfect, has a damn excuse for everything, so it's that much harder to prove it wrong. If you want proof that "God" doesnt exist, take a damn look around you. We control our lives, not some "puppet master". If I want to save someone's life, I can. If I want to kill them, I can. There's no influence by a supreme being in any actions I take.. because MY eyes are open, and it's MY life.

[Lovley]

I feel a little more comfortable knowing that whatever happens to me is because someone or something I can see, not some guy having an effect on things that we cannot see, "way up there"

Strike me with a lightening bolt if you must... If "God" knew the best for us, we wouldnt be here in the first place. If he loved us, we'd live a life in "heaven" from start to finish.

Well than you would have to redefine love. Because that is your opinion. Because what you want is not necessarily what you need therefore your and my opinion according to religion is not adequate or close to affecting or touching God's judgement

Lovely you must have missed something. Since when did God control people's lives?! He doesn't HE ALLOWS FREE WILL! If you did not know that you are the biggest idiot in this forum. I suggest you read the bible before you make a comment. *shakes head* because God watches doesn't mean he controls....

[Lovley]

I stand corrected about him controlling us.

Free will is a joke however.. the bible Does have passages about "God" killing those who didnt do what he wanted them to. So in essence it's like "Do what you want. If you dont do what I want you're fucked " or at least that's how it 'was' in the Bible.

my mistake

[Craftian]

quote:Originally posted by Hammer&Sickle:

He doesn't HE ALLOWS FREE WILL!

Hot damn! Free will!

Despite the fact that you are incredibly limited in what you are actually allowed to do with your will. Unless you relish the prospect of having your loving, merciful god punish you for eternity.