why i don't believe in god

[Lovley]

quote:Originally posted by Craftian:

Hot damn! Free will!

Despite the fact that you are incredibly limited in what you are actually allowed to do with your will. Unless you relish the prospect of having your loving, merciful god punish you for eternity.

That totally slipped my mind. Hey Hammer&Sickle, is the shirt you're wearing made of two different materials? *surprised face* Shit I thought we had free will? What's up with that? Does your neighbor have a 60in plasma t.v., and *gasp* you want one too?! You cannot covet thy neighbor's goods, shame on you! Free will all the way!

[unchewed_meat]

i come to totse often and read the stuff here, but i never had an account to post on the forums. i just created one because i really wanted to post on this topic.

i HATE christians

sure, christmas is great, but i just cant stand it when their dumbasses talk on and on about that garbage in the bible. theyre so fucking ignorant. i even had a friend who is christian, he was my best friend, one day he started talking to me about all this "go to church, its good for you" garbage. i couldnt fucking stand it, i dont talk to him anymore. althought i didnt read the 2 pages of messages before mine (too lazy, so i dont know if you talked about this), i must say, the bible is a work of fiction. it was made up, just like harry potter. i agree with weed man here, jesus could have been real. but i think if he was, he was one crazymofo making a bunch of shit up... hey guys, guess what, i walked on water the other day! "wow jusus youre so cool! youre my friend!" hahahhahaha.. there are too many damn christians where i live. i wish i could just punch them in the head and make those fuckers stop BELIEVING in their bullshit religon. beliefs are not facts, you just support them, THEYRE NOT FACTS. and then theres creationism.. evolution... AHHHH that reminds me, that guy once said to me (when i was explaining god isnt real to him) "well you cant see air either, but you know its there" that very single line right there, made me want to kill him. i cant type anymore.. im just TOO FUCKING PISSED OFF

there are just so many, TOO MANY, things i could say about this...

[Rust]

"is the shirt you're wearing made of two different materials? *surprised face* Shit I thought we had free will?"

Please, think before you post. That has nothing to do with free will. You had the free will to buy that shirt... Free will doesn't mean having what you want, it means having the freedome to do what you want.

"What's up with that? Does your neighbor have a 60in plasma t.v., and *gasp* you want one too?! You cannot covet thy neighbor's goods, shame on you!"

Again it has absolutely nothing to do with free will, yet lets entertain your argument of coveting...

To Covet: To feel immoderate desire for that which is another's.

Wanting the T.V. is not bad, so you loose.

Again, you are warned, not forced; thus there is still free will.

[Rust]

"beliefs are not facts, you just support them, THEYRE NOT FACTS"

You believe Christians are stupid...

You believe the bible is fiction...

You believe tha God isn't real...

Be smart about what you're gonna post, YOU just disproved YOURSELF, in YOUR own post. Plenty stupid.

alright unchewed meat you are ignorant period hands down go dig a grave and bury yourself and rid us of your stupidity. Lovely you don't know what free will is, or maybe you do but that is not what your post implies. I have the free will to do whatever I want whenever I want. The fact is that I could easily get punished free will does not mean that you can do what you want without punishment, look up free, and then will before you so much as flinch towards this website topic.

[imadespirateloser4money]

yall really need to think about how stupid this sounds.. streets of gold.. and shit like that it's like he's trying to bribe you into going to heaven... and the whole stoyies i can walk on water its like he's trying to sound kool.. shit in the bible it says when you get in heaven you'll just worship jesus and bow down to him.. yeah that sound like a bunch of fun... thats fucking boring.. he could of made heaven fun... and if anyone has ever read revulation its all about six headed dragons and shit liek that.... the bible is fucked up... and dont say i dont know what the hell i'm tlakin about my dad is a preacher... and i've read the bible 3 and half times.. so i know way the hell more than you think...

[mister pointyhat]

jesus , mohammed , budda , krishna ,

same thing,theres no difference,but moses was a serial killer and abraham was a skitsofrenik i think , what made abraham decide one day to cut of a bit of his childs penis and declare that from now on all jews must circumsise there newly born because god said so, very strange and very painfull up until the 20th century

[TigerJK]

quote:Originally posted by imadespirateloser4money:

and dont say i dont know what the hell i'm tlakin about my dad is a preacher... and i've read the bible 3 and half times.. so i know way the hell more than you think...

You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Taking everything in the Bible literally is like claiming the Rocky theme song was about the physical eyeball of an actual tiger.

You can't analyse any account, literal or otherwise, without taking into account the social and cultural background.

As for mister pointyhat's point about circumcision, when you're a nomadic people wandering around in the desert, it's a lot easier to cut the foreskin off than to have to continually clean all the shit out from underneath. This tradition is the cause of the "Abraham's covenant" story, not the other way round.

[ATypiCalStuDenT]

if Jesus were alive today, he would most likely be diagnosed as schizophrenic

People need an omnipotent god that loves them so they feel they have place in the universe... instead of the mindless pond scum that we really are, tucked away in an insignificant corner of the universe

And psychotic evangalists use the fire and brimstone to get rich, and abuse little boys and girls

so there!

[lady_dw]

quote:Originally posted by Hammer&Sickle:

I have a feeling God exists, things that cannot be explained or haven't yet been explained by Science, therefore I look to God

Lol. Just because science cannot explain some things now, doesn't mean they are supernatural. For instance, remember when we all believed the world was flat? Science couldn't yet (yet being the key word here) explain how we could not percieve of the earth's curvature on the surface, so everyone believed it was flat.

quote:Originally posted by Hammer&Sickle:

isn't more comforting to know that someone always loves you and he will always forgive you and that there is a life after this one?

I don't need religion to find love. I have a family and good friends. They forgive me when I do wrong, and they actually help me when I ask for it. Anyone who thinks they need god, can find what they need from a true friend. As for the second part, no. I find it more comforting that my eternal rest will be an eternal rest. My mind will cease existence and I will no longer be self aware, so do I care? No. I find it funny that people want there to be something more.

quote:Originally posted by Hammer&Sickle:

By the way, all you people who try to test "God" you must realize that in most religions it says "Don't test God, he will not reveal himself because you don't believe in him/her"

I'm sure someone has already said this but, DUH!!! In any other situation that logic is so clearly a scam that nobody could believe it. I guess George Carlin was right when he said, "When it comes to grade A high class bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all time heavy weight champion of false prophesies and broken dreams, religion..."



[This message has been edited by lady_dw (edited 07-04-2003).]