The power of prayer

[Craftian]

quote:And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father.

You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

- John 14:13-14

[Hex of Rockford]

*cough* bullshit *cough*

[noraa_boy]

They should really make it simple and say "your prayer only has a chance of being answered if your request is in accordance with god's will".

If the Christian god was not willing to help Jesus when he prayed not to be made christ-on-a-stick, what chance have you got of being helped?

I don't believe that prayer works anyway, or at least it doesn't change the Christian god's mind, for omniscient beings just don't change their minds because there is no new information.

[This message has been edited by noraa_boy (edited 12-28-2003).]

[Craftian]

quote:Originally posted by noraa_boy:

They should really make it simple and say "your prayer only has a chance of being answered if your request is in accordance with god's will".

If it was in accordance with its will, why would you need to ask?

[noraa_boy]

I don't think that Christians know what the exact will of God is for any and all given situations. Maybe that's why they ask and hope that thing go their way in addition to their god's way. I think it's like a hit and miss sort of thing.

I am of the opinion that the Christian god would carry out his view regardless of prayers and that prayers don't work, but we are discussing our impressions of the Christian viewpoint, not mine. I think that a theist would be able to give you a better explanation.

[AerosmithRocks]

this is how it usually works as i see it

God always answers your prayers,but not in a direct mircle kind of way usually,god only helps you help yourself.

[fakimakaveli]

I agree! for example praying to pass your exams and then not revising, you havnt got a "chance in hell" lol, having prayed or not!

[Inside_Voices]

quote:Originally posted by fakimakaveli:

I agree! for example praying to pass your exams and then not revising, you havnt got a "chance in hell" lol, having prayed or not!

Haha! No.

Praying has sort of a placebo effect in that when you pray for something and it remotely becomes a reality, you're like "oh crap, he helped me!". But really, you did it all yourself. Don't confuse hard work with divine intervention.

[fakimakaveli]

errrr it wernt dat funy! duhh!! i agree with with wat your saying. ryt this is my opinion:

-if you revised and prayed then passed, its all down to your hard work. not god!

-if you did not revise and prayed then failed, dats down to you and your dumbness!

-if you did not revise and prayed and then passed thats down to ur prayer. then again it cud just be dat ur a lucky f**k! no-1 realy knows!!

[ilbastardoh]

Prayer is simply your focusing of intention, and it does not require you to be xian to work. It only requires honesty, and imagination.