It's very simple you see

[need4speed]

Your brain is designed to design its own reality.

What you see, hear and feel are imprints that program your brain. Your eyes are the windows to your brain, and who controls your eyes controls your brain.

Really. Listen to Timothy Leary, he's right, your wrong.

[ilbastardoh]

The brain is part of your body, but your mind does not "dwell" in it, rather your mind is in your entire body, even the parts of your body that aren't physically there. There is no separation between your body and a person next to you, it only looks like it because our "window" can't pick up their energy field.

[Craftian]

Please, ilbastardoh, continue with the metaphysical jibber-jabber.

It's funny as hell.

[kevinboyd]

quote:Originally posted by ilbastardoh:

The brain is part of your body, but your mind does not "dwell" in it, rather your mind is in your entire body, even the parts of your body that aren't physically there. There is no separation between your body and a person next to you, it only looks like it because our "window" can't pick up their energy field.

i agree. we all come from a cell from our parents. we are a part of their body, although not physically attached. therefore all humans are part of one another. communication is the "mind" or force that controls the parts of the body that aren't physically attached. think about it, it makes sense. too bad christians and atheists don't know how to think too well...

[Hex of Rockford]

How many times must I say this: The mind is contained within the brain. We have solid evidence of this. Do you people ENJOY ignoring evidence so you can keep your beliefs intact rather than finding the truth?

[kevinboyd]

you're missing the point, dude. of course the mind is contained in the brain. but that's the simplest version of the mind. there is also a collective mind among all humans.

[Hex of Rockford]

Is there any solid proof of this, or atleast some circumstantial proof? I'm hungry for knowledge, so if you can provide any examples or proof even hinting at it, I'll leave the possibility open for further studies into it.

[jdoapc]

I posted this a while ago, it may be the hint your looking for, perhaps not much more. I'm trying to find the journals it was published in, but I haven't yet.

I'm more interested in the first part than the second, so if you'd like to refute it in some way, leaving out the possiblity that the experiement itself, ie. the equipment, the set up was flaed in some way, well assume that the doctors were honest and knew what they were doing. It's just to easy to say they might have faked it, or fucked it up somehow. So leaving that aside, is there anything else? I am realy curious to have any opinions, as stuff like this isn't a strong piont for me, I'm too eager to beleive it.

also-(Timothy Leary is far from deserving any of the status he has had, his only claim to this fact might be the feat that he has some how managed too.)

It part of the transcript of a radio interview given in Florida, USA, by Swami

Sarveshwarananda Giri, Baba is his master, Paramahansa Hariharananda.

----------------

Interviewer- That brings me to my next question..... The breathless state known as

nirvakalpa samadhi. What is it?

Swami Sarveshwarananda- Nirvakalpa Samadhi is the highest state of God-realisation, which manifests in the body of the realised Master through some definite physiological signs. It is described as the highest ecstatic communion with God, in which the ego is completely and permanently dissolved. At this stage, the adept can only perceive God in everything. There is no difference between outside and inside, between others and self anymore. It manifests as a suspension of biological activities, too: at that time the heart beat and the breath stop completely. I have observed my own Master in this state and many of our disciples have seen Baba in this state also.

Interviewer- So how do you know He is still alive?

Swami S.- What is really baffling to the medical community is that Baba has been

examined by countless doctors and hospitals and put on EEG’s, EKG’s and hooked up

to so many machines - because it defines what science knows about life.

Interviewer- Is this information documented?

Swami S.- Yes, there is documentation from hospitals in Europe and at the time when

Baba is in this state, then medical science will declare that it is clinical death! Because there is no breath (you may put a mirror under his nostrils and nothing will show,) there is no movement of the heart (the EKG will show a completely flat response,) and there is no mental activity what-so-ever (the EEG will show that all the lines are completely flat.) There is not even the faintest biological or metabolic activity, and yet the body does not stiffen up. There is no rigor mortis-the body remains supple and warm and radiant, radiant with light. The Master can remain in this state for a matter of minutes, hours, days, months or years. If you read for instance the pioneering book “Autobiography of a Yogi” by Paramahansa Yogananda which really launched Kriya Yoga in the Western consciousness, you will see many of these things described.

Interviewer- There must be some kind of benefit to Baba when He practices this

technique - do you know what it is - what is happening to His heart?

Swami S.- It is something very mysterious and no one can understand what is happening at that time. We have asked Baba repeatedly what happens during that time and He says “I am engrossed in the light I am not aware of anything else - pure light of God.” Nirvakalpa Samadhi has two aspects: it can be happening spontaneously by the grace of God - all of a sudden - and this has happened to Baba. He was uttering a prayer and when He mentioned God’s name He was wrapped into this ecstasy, what we call the ‘rapture’ in Christian terminology. His consciousness dissolved and there was no heart beat at all, no breath. no pulse. But Baba is even a rare Master than that, because He can enter into this state at will.

----------------

Taken from the book mentioned, “Autobiography of a Yogi” by Paramahansa

Yogananda. One of the Gurus of Paramahansa Hariharananda.

Paramahansa Yogananda entered Mahasamadhi (a Yogis final conscious exit from the body) in Los Angeles, California, on March 7, 1952, after concluding His speech at a banquet held in honour of H.E. Binay R. Sen, Ambassador of India.

The great world teacher demonstrated the value of yoga (scientific techniques for

God-realisation) not only in life but in death. Weeks after His departure His unchanged face shone the divine lustre of incorruptibility.

Mr. Harry T. Rowe, Los Angeles Mortuary Director, Forest Lawn Memorial-Park (in

which the body of the great master in temporarily placed,) sent Self-Realisation

Fellowship a notarised letter from which the following extracts are taken:

“The absence of any visual signs of decay in the dead body of Paramahansa Yogananda offers the most extraordinary case in our experience..... No physical disintegration was visible in His body even twenty days after death..... No indication of mould was visible on His skin, and no visible desiccation (drying up) took place in

the bodily tissues. This state of perfect preservation of a body is, so far as we know

from mortuary annals, an unparalleled one.... At the time of receiving Yogananda’s

body, the Mortuary personnel expected to observe, through the glass lid of the casket, the usual progressive signs of bodily decay. Our astonishment increased as day followed day without bringing any visible in the body under observation. Yogananda’s body was apparently in a phenomenal state of immutability.

“No odour of decay emanated from His body at any time.... The physical appearance of Yogananda on March 27th. just before the bronze cover of the casket was put into

position, was the same as it had been of March 7th. He looked on March 27th. as fresh

and as unravaged by decay as He had looked on the first night of His death. On March

27th. there was no reason to say that His body had suffered any physical disintegration at all. For these reasons we state again that the case of Paramahansa Yogananda is unique in our experience.”



also-(Timothy Leary is far from deserving any of the status he has had, his only claim to this might be the feat that he has some how managed too.)

[Hex of Rockford]

Interesting, I'd like to know which hospitals have documentation on it though so I could see if it's BS or even remotely accurate.

[CesareBorgia]

quote:Originally posted by ilbastardoh:

The brain is part of your body, but your mind does not "dwell" in it, rather your mind is in your entire body, even the parts of your body that aren't physically there. There is no separation between your body and a person next to you, it only looks like it because our "window" can't pick up their energy field.

Read about Descartes's Cartesian Duality of Mind and Body. You might learn something.