"Let me begin by saying, if God and Heaven didn?t exist, why do people try so hard to prove it. That is proof in itself."
This is idiotic. You could say the same about evolution with people trying so hard to prove it (and they've done a damned good job).
"Instead of deliberating over such things that are beyond human intellect, we should instead focus on things that we do understand. We should seek human harmony and peace. We should try to feed and house the homeless and hungry. We should look deep in our own heart and ask God to help us in this world of sorrow and pain."
OR we can focus on those things of our own fucking will rather than asking a most likely imaginary friend for a little placebo boost to our motive.
"Now, to address the title.
I have read that some people think the Bible says that heaven is nothing more than the sky. Not completely true. It is part of heaven. Genesis 1:7-8 says ?And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.?
Can we see to the end of the sky above us?"
Actually we can see the end of the sky quite clearly from the moon. The atmosphere is particularly visible from that distance as shown by several hundred photographs taken in space.
"No. With all the modern technology available, we can barely see past our own solar system. Scientists calculate and theorize on the distance from earth of stars they find. There is no proof that light travels at the same speed continuously through all forms of space, so how do we know how far away they are?"
Or you can not be a dildo and realize that dozens of studies have proven that light, like all waves, travels the same speed through the same medium. Space=vaccuum. You have to consider debris in space though, so there is a slight margin of error. If this guy took basic physics he wouldn't sound like such a fool.
"We can travel manned flights no farther than the moon and unmanned no farther than Uranus without losing contact, so where is the proof that there is not anything out there?"
We've travelled further than the moon, just haven't landed men further than the moon. Also, we've had unmanned ships go much further than Uranus without losing contact. Wish I could recall one of their names at the moment, I might update later with the names of the ships included.
"Anyone who believes that all life on Earth evolved from a single cell is an utter idiot. The sheer dynamics of it are impossible. Think about our bodies. Every bone, every muscle, every cell perfectly harmonized."
Just because it is too complex for him to grasp doesn't mean it didn't happen. I find it absolutely amazing how complex a single celled organism is, but it doesn't mean multi-cellular organisms can't exist, or that cells aren't one of the most simple forms of life.
"Think about the animals, millions of genii and species, all perfect in their own way. Think about the plants, too numerous to list, yet each one with its unique beauty and importance to life. There is no way it just happened. There is NO scientific basis to evolution. When a species evolves, it merely changes to adapt to its environment, then the previous form becomes extinct."
Unless of course, mutliple environments exist...perhaps maybe artic, jungle, seas, plains, forests...even temperature variations within a single environment. Then one species can evolve in a new condition while its mother species remains in the old conditions. Who'd have thunk it!
"Example, cockroaches evolve to resist pesticides. As the weaker ones die, the new ones take over their place."
But the weak ones NOT exposed to that chemical, per se another family in a different house that isn't sprayed, remain the same.
"IF we evolved from monkeys, there would no longer e a purpose for monkeys and they would die out. Far from the case. There would also be half monkeys half humans roaming the planet."
Humans didn't evolve from monkeys according to the trees we have anyways. A common ancestor, which IS now extinct. However, different environments allowed for less erect and more erect apes to evolve. Plains=erect for seeing over grass and such. Trees=less erect with more adept arms for swinging, hiding, whatever. The lack of mediary species being alive anymore can be explained by there being no conditions for their traits to continue as the necessary ones were passed eventually to homo sapiens while the useless ones died off with older generations as the environment no longer supported them.
"Have you seen one? Does the evolutionary process stop? Once humans evolved from the monkeys, did one of the single cells tell it to stop?"
Human ingenuity has prevented us from needing to evolve much. Our brain capacity allows us to modify our environment to suit us rather than modifying ourselves to suit it.
"Charles Darwin, the author of the theory of evolution, said on his death bed, ?I was wrong. We did not evolve. There IS a God!? God let him see what was in store for him."
Can this guy provide a source for this?
"As for rock solid evidence of the existence of Heaven or God, there is none and there will be none until Jesus Christ returns. We have to trust in God and believe that He exists. Hebrews 11:1 says ?Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.? When God calls on your heart, you will know He is real, and you won?t need any physical proof. Although we are created in God?s own image, it is His Holy Spirit which works through our hearts to be evidence of His existence."
I tried blind faith once...didn't work out too well once I snapped back into reality and realized my life had gone to shit.
"Do you believe we are just here, and when we die that?s all there is? We live our short lives on this planet, seeing the death and destruction all around us, live in fear of terrorism and watch hatred grow at such a rapid pace, work for our living then leave it all behind to go to a grave and that is all? How sad and miserable you must be!"
I actually take solace in knowing this might be all there is...that there is no Hell where people will suffer. I'd rather everyone have no fate at all than anyone suffer in Hell...maybe that's just empathy talking rather than selfishness though...
"Visit
http://www.av1611.org/hell.html. This is about as close to physical proof of the existence of a Heaven or Hell that we will ever know. About the middle of the page there is a link to an audio file. Listen to it and choose for yourself whether to believe it or not. You should also read the page, it is very informative and leaves little to be speculated."
I'll check that page out in a bit and reply to it shortly.
"Finally, above all other things, believe in Jesus Christ and ask Him into your heart. He will forgive you of all your doubts and disbelief and He will reserve a place for you in Heaven, or as Jesus said to the thief on the cross beside Him, ?Today you will be with me in Paradise.? Luke 23:43.
Think about this. When Jesus was on this Earth, people still chose not to believe. There was LIVING proof and some still worked to disprove Him. They all failed, and Jesus won the victory over Hell and the grave. All for you. Because HE loves you and He wants you to love him. It?s that simple. People try to complicate it but it really is that simple. Love Him, ask Him to forgive your sins and you will be saved from and eternity in the fires of hell, where the fire is not quenched, and the worm dieth not."
Hmm, I thought Christ went to Hell when he died and stayed for 3 days...nice paradise that thief met that day with Jesus. Some man claiming to be the son of God and preaching socialist ideals doesn't prove a God exists. If anything, it proves Jesus was very empathetic while possibly insane. Also, legends are misconstrued as all hell. Look at Arthurian legends and such...some of it is based in fact but the stories get blown out of proportion and twisted within just a couple generations. The majority of the bible's NT was written after almost a century since the most common year of death for Jesus...are we to take likely overproportioned stories as fact?
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