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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |

2006-09-14, 15:36
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the pope recently quoted from a text written by the Byzantine emperor Manuel 2 which says that Islam is a religion which only preaches through sword.
isn't the pope acting like another religious preacher? or has he joined president bush's war on terror campaign?
what are your opinions?
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2006-09-14, 15:55
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The Pope's comments were much deeper than this or anything Bush has ever said. I believe he was speaking about the concept of logos vis-a-vis faith being something that must be chosen freely and not imposed on someone.
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2006-09-14, 19:22
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quote:Originally posted by AeroDynamic:
The Pope's comments were much deeper than this or anything Bush has ever said. I believe he was speaking about the concept of logos vis-a-vis faith being something that must be chosen freely and not imposed on someone.
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You mean like when muhammed said that there should be no coercion in religion?
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2006-09-14, 20:18
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Columbus, Ohio
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Apparently Muslim terrorists didn't get the memo...or maybe they just don't consider killing any who don't believe a form of coercion. As far as most logical people are concerned, the Jizya, along with all other forms of restrictions upon Dhimmis throughout history, are coercion to convert, so forget the moral highground on that question entirely.
This is largely a theological question, so I'm sending this to My God.
-=Sephiroth=-
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2006-09-15, 02:24
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melbourne australia
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Sephiroth:
Apparently Muslim terrorists didn't get the memo...or maybe they just don't consider killing any who don't believe a form of coercion. As far as most logical people are concerned, the Jizya, along with all other forms of restrictions upon Dhimmis throughout history, are coercion to convert, so forget the moral highground on that question entirely.
This is largely a theological question, so I'm sending this to My God.
-=Sephiroth=-
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you mean to say that islam does not have any morales??
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2006-09-15, 16:35
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if the leader of the biggest religion in the world starts to taunt other religions . i guess it is going to only make matters worse.
what are your opinions?
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2006-09-15, 16:49
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2006-09-16, 00:07
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What has clearly happened here, is the militant powers-that-be, who are pulling the strings behind the scenes of the radical Islamic militias, and giving the majority of peaceful Muslims a bad name, have seized upon statements made by His Holiness, and based in historical fact, and then taken them out of context, in order to attempt to facilitate more division and violence throughout the world. Note the comments by militants that the Vatican has now "joined with the Zionist-American alliance" etc. etc. His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI made the speech in the interests of opening dialogue between the two religions, and attempting to establish common ground/agreement between the leaders of the Islamic faith and the rest of the world, that acts of terrorism and violence are deplorable.
God Bless,
Tri.
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2006-09-16, 03:47
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Fuck the Pope. When it takes your church over three hundred years to pardon Galileo, you aren't allowed to talk shit.
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2006-09-16, 04:55
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quote:Originally posted by trichocereus pachanoi:
What has clearly happened here, is the militant powers-that-be, who are pulling the strings behind the scenes of the radical Islamic militias, and giving the majority of peaceful Muslims a bad name, have seized upon statements made by His Holiness, and based in historical fact, and then taken them out of context, in order to attempt to facilitate more division and violence throughout the world. Note the comments by militants that the Vatican has now "joined with the Zionist-American alliance" etc. etc. His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI made the speech in the interests of opening dialogue between the two religions, and attempting to establish common ground/agreement between the leaders of the Islamic faith and the rest of the world, that acts of terrorism and violence are deplorable.
God Bless,
Tri.
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His Holiness?? wtf, are some nazi? first of all he openly criticized the islam religion and who are you to know what the pope intended? the only person who knows what the pope intended is the pope.
Secondly i hate fuckin radical people in relgion, like all those muslims who are offended. they need to fuckin get over it. i mean i could care less if the pope said all atheists are dumbasses for not believing in god. its all bullshit.
And lastly will this provoke more violence? because if it does then the radical islamic people will just be proving that statement correct which would be extremely stupid on their part.
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