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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |

2006-09-18, 18:37
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An agnostic is like a colorblind person who proclaims that there is no such thing as a rainbow, never having seen one.
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2006-09-18, 19:51
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quote:Originally posted by ArmsMerchant:
An agnostic is like a colorblind person who proclaims that there is no such thing as a rainbow, never having seen one.
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Or, an agnostic is like someone who says there is no such thing as flying saucers, never having seen one. Right?
No disrespect intended. I like alot of the shit you say here.
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2006-09-18, 20:38
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But colorblind people can see rainbows. The colors are just different, or a few stripes may be missing.
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2006-09-18, 22:10
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quote:Originally posted by ArmsMerchant:
An agnostic is like a colorblind person who proclaims that there is no such thing as a rainbow, never having seen one.
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So what's the problem? Is not each person allowed to seek their own path? Is it better to remain uncommitted to the existence of something without proof than to have blind faith?
I don't get the point of your post AM???
Peace be with you 
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2006-09-19, 00:13
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Regular
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Moderation is for monks
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Maybe I don't know the correct definition of agnostic, but wouldn't it be more like a "colorblind" (here meaning they see in black and white) person who proclaims that there may or may not be a rainbow, never having seen one?
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2006-09-19, 00:38
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quote:Originally posted by Jaimie:
Maybe I don't know the correct definition of agnostic, but wouldn't it be more like a "colorblind" (here meaning they see in black and white) person who proclaims that there may or may not be a rainbow, never having seen one?
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This is a better example than the Op gave, but it;s still not a very good one. As an agnostic, I dont believe that there is a god but I wont go around telling people that there isnt a god because I dont know and I have accepted that I will never know.
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2006-09-19, 00:38
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Exactly.
An agnostic would be like someone who's never seen a rainbow, doesn't think anyone can see rainbows, and never really argues for the existence/non-existence of rainbows.
People on TOTSE seem to confuse agnosticism with being unsure of your faith. An agnostic simply believes that the existence of a higher meaning/power, i.e. God, is inherently unknowable, and thus is of no real consequence/concern.
[This message has been edited by Fquar (edited 09-19-2006).]
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2006-09-19, 00:39
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San Francisco, CA
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But there is the ability to see a rainbow or the visual representation of what a rainbow would be like through the eyes of the world. A colorblind person can look and see something, and say it's a rainbow.
I would more or less compare it to a deaf person who claims there's no sound due to their lack of experience with it.
Still, there really isn't a comparison for something like comparing the belief in god to the lack thereof.
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2006-09-19, 02:09
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Agnostics are like people who have bad vision, maybe if you find the right glasses for them they will see what the need to see.
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2006-09-19, 02:47
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quote:Originally posted by ArmsMerchant:
An agnostic is like a colorblind person who proclaims that there is no such thing as a rainbow, never having seen one.
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Failed analogy. People have varying definitions for "agnostic", but I like the one from ReligiousTolerance.org. (if you like a different one, please provide it):
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quote: Agnosticism is not a religion or complete ethical system. It is simply a belief that we cannot prove either the existence or the non-existence of deity; (i.e. of one or more gods, one or more goddesses, or combinations of the above). Many Agnostics believe that we can never know about the existence of a deity. Others suggest that we cannot know anything about deity or deities at this time with the currently available evidence, but that this could conceivably change in the future.
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I would bet that plenty of agnostics have never seen Venus or any part of China, but still beieve that both exist. Analogy fails.
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