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AI · #1 2006-09-24, 16:31

i came to the conclusion that Jesus is actually Satan. Now before anything is said, lets think of the best fiction stories that are fiction but have a twist of non-fiction in them. There is many of them. After all, if you ask me the best of stories aren't real, but do have the hint of reality in them.

If we look at the doctrine, and what people say, then we have to conclude that Satan is not a moron. Like how i look in my spelling, bitch. But when he is around Jesus he is a crazed lunitic. That doesn't make sense.

The background of history, according to doctrine, Satan is an angel who wants to be god, worshiped like god. They were thrown out of heaven for such a thing.

You would have to think that Satan is an absolute moron to just come to earth and do bad to get you to worship him like god. You may be fearful all you want of a ruler, that doesn't mean you worship them. Did people worship any, ANY, of the rulers that did 'bad?' Did the jews worship Hitler?

Now, pretend that Satan is actually smart, and all he wants is nothing more than to be worshiped like god. How would they go about doing that? Would they come down and cause pain, of course then you only get so many to follow and as Stalin said, you become a statistic. And then you get them away from god, but you don't get worshiped. You become hated all the same. That wouldn't work for Satans goal.

What would work for Satan is to be nice to humanity, and give them fear. Fear of hell if you don't follow the rules. Tell them some truths that are absolutly distored.

In the story of Adam and Eve, Satan was in the form of a snake. Satan tempted them to eat the apple of knowledge. Jesus, gave us a good idea of right and wrong. He gave us knowledge. Knowledge of heaven and hell, knowledge of right and wrong so that we may achieve them.

But what if there is no heaven or hell? What if it was a tactic to make you follow what Jesus said? Jesus is worshiped right next to god, he is "the son of god." As is Satan, ok maybe not son, but god did create him.

Why would god allow such a thing, did God give up on us? No, your assuming that god is all knowing like wikipedia. But you have to assume that, Jesus taught you that. And your assuming that God didn't give you free will. Lets say that God did give you free will, if there was such a thing. A free will to be able to live, and nothing more. After all, if for a second you see what i'm saying. You'll know that the only thing we know of God is what was said to us by Jesus, and the bible. So not you, not them, not anything can teach you of God. God is something you have no idea about. Absolutly none.

i posted this else where. Yes i did write it, and its nothing more than an IDEA. i think and thats all.

Q · #2 2006-09-24, 16:44

You think too much.

~Q~

Graemy · #3 2006-09-24, 19:18

pretty interesting i give a thumbs up.

MasterPython · #4 2006-09-24, 20:30

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quote:Originally posted by AI:

i came to the conclusion that Jesus is actually Satan.

Then how could they both be in the same place at the same time?

insert witty comment here · #5 2006-09-25, 09:35

does that make satan jesus?

kelashnikov · #6 2006-09-25, 10:13

you really stepped on sumin here bud

1: Jesus was the human form of God right? Now if God and Jesus are the same being, then as Jesus walked the earth God would have been everywhere, therefore being in the same place.

2: Jesus was mortal Satan was a fallen angel, angels can't die rite? so u nail an angel to a cross? he aint gonna die

3: A friend of mine believes everything is one, we are all a part of God or an experiment of his own power.

I sometimes think

WE DON'T UNDERSTAND AND ARE NEVER DESTINED TO.

AI · #7 2006-09-25, 18:11

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quote:Originally posted by kelashnikov:

you really stepped on sumin here bud

1: Jesus was the human form of God right? Now if God and Jesus are the same being, then as Jesus walked the earth God would have been everywhere, therefore being in the same place.

2: Jesus was mortal Satan was a fallen angel, angels can't die rite? so u nail an angel to a cross? he aint gonna die

3: A friend of mine believes everything is one, we are all a part of God or an experiment of his own power.

I sometimes think

WE DON'T UNDERSTAND AND ARE NEVER DESTINED TO.

Nah, i didn't step anywhere.

1. i'm saying it was never God, it was a lie from Satan. Proclaiming himself God, like Satan wanted.

2. Its pretty self explainitory. But what was the last thing Jesus said? Wasn't it, "My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?" Err, something like that i'm sure someone knows.

3. It very well could be.

i think that as well, but i've really got nothing better to do here. So why not?

ArmsMerchant · #8 2006-09-25, 19:03

Satan = mythical figure

Jesus = greatly misunderstood historical figure

kelashnikov · #9 2006-09-26, 06:17

i didnt say Satan was God or vice versa, i think they are individuals, but lets say God does'nt interfere in human affairs. Satan coulda known that, nd that woulda been a + for him nd his plans, if he were to pose as his onli son.

as for god abandoning him, he left Jesus on the cross, but he also cast Satan out of heaven. when i was on about an angel dying on the cross i meant it would be easy for him to pose as a ressurected mortal.

nd when i said u stepped on sumin i meant it was an interesting point. u could step in dog shit nd it wouldnt mean fuck all, but u still stepped in it