Can anyone prove to me God exists?

[Naminator01]

I´ve been an atheist since the age of 10

i just kept pondering on the paradox that is god.



How can "god" possibly exist?

I mean god must be there for a reason

but who created god?



There just isnt logic in religion.



I´ve laughed at luther for becoming a monk

I laughed at jesus for starving himself during 40 days

And i also laughed at Ghandis "simple" life.

These people just dont make sense.

[Raw_Power]

No. It's scientifically non-falsifiable.

[Naminator01]

ok then

is there the smallest hint in ordinary life

that there is a greater being?

[Clevmire]

quote:Originally posted by Naminator01:



but who created god?



There just isnt logic in religion.

"who created god" is the same as "what created the expanding universe." An existential look as though existence is not the same as reality might provoke a similar effect.

There isn't a whole lot of logic in much of anything, the possible exception being why religion is crucial to our world. Religion is a kind of brainwashing that soothes the masses and convinces them that punishment will follow for acts which oppose our system. People would have less reason to obey laws (i.e. murder) without the thought of eternal damnation hanging over them. Don't laugh at these people. No matter how much you disagree with what they did, you should respect them as people and the impact they indirectly have on your life.

[gmail]

The thousands of children who die of starvation everyday.

The horrible wars we have.

People killing eachother because of differing religious beliefs.

Innocent men sent to prison for life.

Ohhh wait... You wanted reasons why god exists. Cant help you there

[pipedream]

quote:Originally posted by Naminator01:



And i also laughed at Ghandis "simple" life.

gandhi was a patriot trying to achieve freedom for his country, not a religious zealot, genius.

but in response: I can't give you a reason that God in the commonly understood sense exists. However, if you believe in any accepted scientific theory of the creation of the universe, you know that it was born of a massive amount of energy - spread about, concentrated to a point, whatever. Pretty much, everything that is was born of this one essence.

If that doesn't describe God, I don't know what does.

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[ArmsMerchant]

quote:Originally posted by Naminator01:

ok then

is there the smallest hint in ordinary life

that there is a greater being?

God speaks to us in many ways.

Most of us simply fail to pay attention.

[Hexadecimal]

quote:Originally posted by gmail:

The thousands of children who die of starvation everyday.

The horrible wars we have.

People killing eachother because of differing religious beliefs.

Innocent men sent to prison for life.

Ohhh wait... You wanted reasons why god exists. Cant help you there

Human choices falsify a god? I don't see the logic.

And no, nobody can prove to you a god exists.

I can prove my definition of a god...but then again, I don't believe in some mythical old man that judges people for the shitty choices they make.

My God is all present, all powerful, and all experiencing. I didn't use omni because that typically implies 'infinitely'. I don't know whether or not existence is infinite or not.

Here's the proof -

1) Any distortion in matter or energy will eventually cause a distortion in all other matter and energy.

2) All existence is thus connected as one system.

3) This system contains the totality of energies and matters - thus containing all the power in existence (all powerful).

4) This system is all that is - thus present in all dimensions, all matter, all energy (all present).

5) Any distortion in any area of this system will disrupt all other areas of the system, it experiences everything (all experiencing).

6) According to the transitive property (God = Apow, Apre, Aexp; System = Apow, Apre, Aexp; God = System), God is the totality of existence.

This is just according to the definition of all powerful, all present, all experiencing...anything past a natural god becomes theology/retardation. This proves no divine will, or anything of the sort...just one definition of God.

[Death of a Nation]

To simplify the threads above...No.

[l33t_looser]

you cant prove God exists, its either somthing you belive or dont. i do..i figure it this way, i would rather take 2 days of my time to go to church and worship God (and i actually have fun doing so..its my thing.) and figure out he dont exist when i die, rather than live life and die and figure out im screwed.