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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |

2006-12-16, 04:05
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With justification, why do you believe in God?
Curious.
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2006-12-16, 05:20
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Conversely, why don't you believe in God?
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2006-12-16, 05:38
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quote:Originally posted by socratic:
Conversely, why don't you believe in God?
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I don't believe in god due to my belief of "with great claims come great explanations."
To me, there is no evidence or explanation to *his* existence.
We don't believe in Zeus, or aliens, so why 'god'? Hence the question.
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2006-12-16, 06:43
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quote:Originally posted by 53v3N:
With justification, why do you believe in God?
Curious.
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I can sum it up in a sentence -
Before I surrendered my life to Jesus, I had to try to do good. Now that I have submitted my life, I have to try to do bad.
WIthin that sentence lies a very profound series of events that occured over a few years in my life. Describing those things would take much more then anybody here would be willing to read through so I'll spare you.
However, when I experienced those things I was also lead to the bible. For once in my life I could understand it and I read it over and over and over again. Wisdom and understanding of His word poured into me.
When I experienced these events of being born again I could not explain how or why my views and actions changed until I read the bible.
What I experienced was the true love in it's purist form that God has for us. The true love a father has for his son.
Reading the bible I understood that God is real and with us through the testimony of the prophets - I can't count the numerous prayers that were answered in my life but I can tell you the life I had before and the life I have today are two seperate people. I was born again a son of God. Until He grabs your heart and sets your mind on fire for truth and love will you ever know what it's like to know God.
I hope you understood that I would not walk in faith if I wasn't set upright and given another chance at life. I knew when I was lifted out of the pit I created for myself, it was a pit I had no power over, a pit I could not get out of on my own power did I know that God's hands have touched my life and set me free.
I am not religious because I know that following rules and regulations may help you live a certain way but it has no power to breath life into spiritually dead bones.
[This message has been edited by Interest (edited 12-16-2006).]
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2006-12-16, 14:06
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quote:Originally posted by Interest:
I can sum it up in a sentence -
Before I surrendered my life to Jesus, I had to try to do good. Now that I have submitted my life, I have to try to do bad.
WIthin that sentence lies a very profound series of events that occured over a few years in my life. Describing those things would take much more then anybody here would be willing to read through so I'll spare you.
However, when I experienced those things I was also lead to the bible. For once in my life I could understand it and I read it over and over and over again. Wisdom and understanding of His word poured into me.
When I experienced these events of being born again I could not explain how or why my views and actions changed until I read the bible.
What I experienced was the true love in it's purist form that God has for us. The true love a father has for his son.
Reading the bible I understood that God is real and with us through the testimony of the prophets - I can't count the numerous prayers that were answered in my life but I can tell you the life I had before and the life I have today are two seperate people. I was born again a son of God. Until He grabs your heart and sets your mind on fire for truth and love will you ever know what it's like to know God.
I hope you understood that I would not walk in faith if I wasn't set upright and given another chance at life. I knew when I was lifted out of the pit I created for myself, it was a pit I had no power over, a pit I could not get out of on my own power did I know that God's hands have touched my life and set me free.
I am not religious because I know that following rules and regulations may help you live a certain way but it has no power to breath life into spiritually dead bones.
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"I can't count the numerous prayers that were answered in my life"
Please do, i can wager it will fit into line with the number of prayers that you gave in total with the law of chance.
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2006-12-16, 14:37
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I guess, hope. I don't like the idea of it being all over when I die. I suppose that's a cowardly reason. But, I do feel things, things beyond rational explanation, have seen things also, and they kind of affirm my belief in some supernatural power. Maybe I'm crazy, or foolish, but it's what I believe.
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2006-12-16, 14:54
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quote:Originally posted by MidnightRambler:
I guess, hope. I don't like the idea of it being all over when I die. I suppose that's a cowardly reason. But, I do feel things, things beyond rational explanation, have seen things also, and they kind of affirm my belief in some supernatural power. Maybe I'm crazy, or foolish, but it's what I believe.
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"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying or reassuring."
-Carl Sagan
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2006-12-16, 16:41
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quote:Originally posted by MidnightRambler:
I guess, hope. I don't like the idea of it being all over when I die. I suppose that's a cowardly reason. But, I do feel things, things beyond rational explanation, have seen things also, and they kind of affirm my belief in some supernatural power. Maybe I'm crazy, or foolish, but it's what I believe.
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i dont like the idea of there not being a huge ass diamond the size of a fridge in my back yard......doesnt make me believe there is one there though.
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2006-12-16, 22:11
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Interest, your post was hilarious. Born again Christians, lol. You talk about good and bad, define what you mean by those vague terms since they are subjective to your own values and beliefs.
I don't believe in God, cause there is no evidence that one exists in any form. Only idiots can put their faith into something that makes absolutely no sense.
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2006-12-16, 22:44
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Dear friends,
It is funny that you say that only fools could believe in Christ. 1 Corinthians 1:19-21 For it is written, "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart." Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe.
It is true, what is shown in Christ may seem like folly to many. Yet I would not be so bold as to place faith in a feeling. That in itself can cause nothing but trouble. Death is the first thing that must occur. Now the reason I came to faith was because of my despair. We all fail even our own goals and sets of values. There is by the way a true right and wrong, even if people are unwilling to admit it. I am sure that C.S. Lewis explains it better then I could so I would suggest reading Mere Christianity. But even if you are unwilling to admit this you do know that you fail at many of your endevours. I could not stand failing over and over. I kept failing my loved ones as well as the people around me and it pissed me off for what else did I have to look forward to? If I could not make this life good I have nothing left. I also could not stand that I was so corrupt myself and thus I started blaming God. As a matter of fact I started hating God and realized that I had hated him all along because I was born into this corruption of sin and I couldnt escape it. It was when I finally despaired of my own actions that I saw what the name Christ meant. No, I dont feel like a million bucks everyday. I dont think that my life has instantly changed into a beauty story and as a matter of fact I am sure I will endure more suffering as a Christian then if I was not. But the difference is that now I place my trust in Christ, my Lord and savior. I throw myself on the Cross because I can do no true good on my own and will always fall short. Therefore I thank the Lord, my redeemer lives. Thus I died and came to life in Spirit. I will still mess up, be sad, do stupid things, but I will come back to the right place and throw my sins upon Christ so that I can run the good race and share this comfort with others. It doesnt matter if we choose to believe in the Lord or not, he still remains.
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