comedy relief... sorta

[xtreem5150ahm]

Here is somewhat of a parody that some of you might get a chuckle from... i know i got a few. Some i just found plain humorous, others i've actually seen happen (or forms of), some either went over my head (mostly the current event section) or havent seen anything comparable.

Some, regretfully, i have been guilty of the obverse...

I hope you all enjoy... and maybe even learn from.

http://www.tektonics.org/parody/fundyath.html

[Martini]

quote:9. You spend hours arguing that a-theism actually means "without a belief in God " and not just " belief that there is no god" as if this is a meaningful distinction in real life.

quote:20. You say that there is no God and that those who believe in God do so in blind faith, yet your claim that there is no God also rests on blind faith.

The charge being made in #20, proves that an atheist's position that there is a difference between "without a belief in God " and "belief that there is no god", is an important one.

quote:10. You consistently deny the existence of God because you personally have never seen him but you reject out of hand personal testimony from theists who claim to have experienced God as a reality in their lives.

I've never spoken to an atheist that denies the existence of God because he hasn't "seen Him", and I've spoken to a lot of them.

quote:11. You can make the existence of pink unicorns the center-piece of a philosophical critique.

It can come in handy when the theist makes the argument, "You can't prove that God doesn't exist".

quote:19. You believe that if something cannot be touched, seen, heard, or measured in some way, then it must not exist, yet you fail to see the irony of your calling Christians "narrow-minded".

Again, I've never heard an atheist make that claim. What we claim is that if there's no evidence for the existence of something, there's no reason to believe it exists, never that it must not exist.

quote:21. While you don't believe in God, you feel justified on bashing God or attacking those who believe in something that you KNOW doesn't exist, fighting against or even discussing about a non-existent being are the symptoms of mental illness!

Arguing that there is no reason to believe in mythical beings is a symptom of mental illness? I think someone's got that one backwards.

quote: 22. You complain when Christians appeal to their emotions when justifying their belief in God yet you feel justified on appealing to your emotions for lack of belief in God.

And again, I've never met an atheist who is one based on emotion.

quote:23. You blame God for the starvation, sickness, pain and suffering in the world...when, indeed, it is MAN's greed, politics, selfishness and apathy that not only causes, but also ignores the sick and the starving masses. We aren't our brothers' keepers....but we should be.

MAN has always had the capability to feed the starving of the world? We're responsible for kids who die of cancer, and all of the "pain and suffering in the world"? Wow!

quote:25. You claim that evolution and the big bang are two entirely separate theories that explain different aspects of the universe, yet, in what school of learning can you find any real separation or distinction between the two?

This one is painfully sad. Does the author really think the Big Bang and Evolution are not entirely separate theories and that they don't explain different aspects of the universe? I might as well stop right here.

I'm all for being able to poke fun at myself, but this list seems to be less tongue and cheek and real accusations that are just plain ridiculous.

[xtreem5150ahm]

I'm not defending or proclaiming any of the list. I did say i've seen some, either in form or "exactness".

The guy's site that i found this on, does visit Tweb, and some of the ones that i've seen, i saw there.... my seeing them doesnt make them valid or false. I've even seen some here on Totse... same thing applies.

Some of the ones on Tweb that i saw, are slightly exagerated on the parody list, in emphasis but downplayed in content (i assume, for brevity).

I shared the list mainly because i thought many were funny/ironic, and thought some of the members here might get alittle chuckle.

God Bless,

johnny

[Martini]

I wasn't admonishing you for anything, johnny. There were a few, especially at the end of the list, that were genuinely funny. But it is sad what some Christians think of atheists and know about science.

[xtreem5150ahm]

quote:Originally posted by Martini:

This one is painfully sad. Does the author really think the Big Bang and Evolution are not entirely separate theories and that they don't explain different aspects of the universe? I might as well stop right here.

I'm all for being able to poke fun at myself, but this list seems to be less tongue and cheek and real accusations that are just plain ridiculous.[/b]

Hi Martini,

Ok, just this one..

Actually, from the POV of the Bible, molecules to man evolution and big bang are directly opposed to Creation.

Yes, there are many Christians that attempt to harmonize, but the harmonization leads to other theological difficulties.

The implication of big bang and evolution imply natural origins (or, a deistic god that doesnt care)... because of implied natural origins, abiogenisis is also implied.

I know that i've nutshelled all three, but that's all i got desire to post.

God Bless,

johnny

[Martini]

quote:Originally posted by xtreem5150ahm:

Actually, from the POV of the Bible, molecules to man evolution and big bang are directly opposed to Creation.

Whether or not you make a relationship between the two Biblically is not the issue.

The author stated that claiming that Big Bang theory and evolution are "two entirely separate theories" (which they most certainly are) is a fundamental atheist claim, and therefore, something to make fun of. It's just plain fact! The two theories are from two entirely different branches of science, and aren't related in the least!

He then asks "in what school of learning can you find any real separation or distinction between the two?" You don't find that incredibly ignorant? Would you want to attend an institution of higher learning that didn't find fundamental differences between totally unrelated theories in Cosmology and Biology?

[ChickenOfDoom]

quote:Originally posted by Martini:

Again, I've never heard an atheist make that claim. What we claim is that if there's no evidence for the existence of something, there's no reason to believe it exists, never that it must not exist.

I'm an atheist and I make that claim.

Then again, that's a product of my being a solipsist, and I don't often use arguments derived from my core philosophy since it complicates things exponentially and very few people understand the logic behind it.

[Lamabot]

My problem is that i don't feel this to be a parody or satire, it's just a bitter lash based on trivializing certain concepts.

On a related note, am I stupid for seeing nothing wrong with these few?

# When a Christian tells you that in order to fully understand The Word of God you need to open up your heart and allow The Bible to speak to you and to read The Bible by placing confidence in God, you say that the Bible is just a book and that why you don't have to do the same with Harry Potter.

Also a lot of the "parody" is based on Hitler and eugenics as attack on atheism. Few sensible atheists use Charles Manson as an attack on Christianity as a whole.

Edit: Gotta love the ending

You may be a fundy atheist if....

# You have your own list of how to tell who is a Christian that itself runs on Fundy Atheist principles.

# You get apoplectic about being called a Fundy Atheist for believing all those self-evidently true propositions above. And you label all theists as "fundies".

# Last of all -- you write this website a letter which includes a rebuttal to the above listing! (While giving the link http: //www.tekt onics.org/ qt/tenton. html to the their own "rebuttal to a listing"



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[among_the_living]

"When you watch a punt returner run a 93 yard touchdown, you marvel at what evolution has done for the human race. But when someone gets cancer, you blame God for it."

This.....makes no sense.

"You think that humans are products of chance but when it comes to human reason we can believe in logic! (Think about it !)"

Darwinian theory of evolution is the exact opposite of so called "chance"

If youre an atheist then you dont believe in a god, so, you cant blame the worlds ills on him....the guy who wrote this is a moron.

[This message has been edited by among_the_living (edited 01-07-2007).]

[ate]

Interesting.