Atheists and Believers

[THUNDERCOCK]

I have a theory that I think explains a lot of things.

I think that people who believe in god (or gods) do so because have an eternal soul. They are eternal beings who have attached themselves in some way to human bodies. They believe in a spiritual world because they have experienced it.

Atheists, on the other hand, do not have a soul. They are the true humans and when they die they cease to exist. For them, there is nothing beyond this physical world.

So everyone is right. Now can't we all just get along?

[Martini]

quote:Originally posted by THUNDERCOCK:

So everyone is right. Now can't we all just get along?

You have a theory with absolutely no evidence to back it up and you expect everyone accept it and get along?

Atheists, generally speaking, are atheists because of their skeptical nature. Why would they accept your theory without evidence?

Religious people, generally speaking, believe what their holy books tell them. No holy book that I'm aware of makes such a declaration. They believe that God gives everyone opportunities throughout their lives to convert and/or that even unbelievers have souls that will burn in hell for their disbelief. Why would they accept your theory without evidence?

Even if your theory were correct, it would not result in everyone getting along. It would not cause some religious people to become tolerant of homosexuals, to not kill unbelievers because their god wants them to, etc.

What are we supposed to believe of religious people that become atheists and vice-versa? That souls pop in and out of their bodies?

[Q777]

How does you baseless model explain religious people who become atheist and vice versa.

Did they find or loose their eternal soul?

[Woodsman]

quote:Originally posted by THUNDERCOCK:

I have a theory that I think explains a lot of things.

I think that people who believe in god (or gods) do so because have an eternal soul. They are eternal beings who have attached themselves in some way to human bodies. They believe in a spiritual world because they have experienced it.

Atheists, on the other hand, do not have a soul. They are the true humans and when they die they cease to exist. For them, there is nothing beyond this physical world.

So everyone is right. Now can't we all just get along?

That's so horribly foolish I don't even know where to start.

First of all, it's ridiculous from a theological standpoint. Why would a god give some people souls and others none?

Secondly, it's insane from a scientific standpoint. Belief in a supreme being is based upon a person's interpretation of evidence.

[truorion]

So you're saying people are prematurely born athiest, and other's already have their religion chosen before they were born?

So, in your logic, a unborn athiest never recieved a soul.

While a religious person does?

What if someone's born an athiest and then has a revelation, and believes in god.

Do they recieve a soul upon believing?

There's alot of flaws, but.. I give you Kudos for trying to think something up. Keep working at it .

[THUNDERCOCK]

quote:Originally posted by Martini:

You have a theory with absolutely no evidence to back it up and you expect everyone accept it and get along?

What are we supposed to believe of religious people that become atheists and vice-versa? That souls pop in and out of their bodies?

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Neither Atheists nor religious people base their beliefs on evidence. It is impossible to prove whether or not God exists. Atheists have no proof there is no God, yet (because as you say they are "skeptical") they vehemently deny and often ridicule the thought of his existence. That doesn't sound like skepticism, it sounds more like faith in the non-existence of god.

Holy books can be written by prophets just as well as they can be written by charlatans. Religious people also have no real proof that god exists, yet they have been known to die for their faith in their god.

Atheism and Theism both require faith, since evidence cannot confirm nor can it debunk either one.

Maybe souls can pop in and out of bodies. Maybe people can develop a soul as part of "evolution".

Why would a god give some people souls and not give souls to others? The answer could be because they are god and their wisdom is beyond human comprehension. Or it could be because there are simply more people than there are souls, since souls are eternal and there may be a finite number of them. As a god, you would not necessarily want to stop humans from breeding just because you ran out of souls.

[boozehound420]

This guys an idiot

[Hare_Geist]

quote:Neither Atheists nor religious people base their beliefs on evidence. It is impossible to prove whether or not God exists. Atheists have no proof there is no God, yet (because as you say they are "skeptical") they vehemently deny and often ridicule the thought of his existence. That doesn't sound like skepticism, it sounds more like faith in the non-existence of god.

There's a giant pink dildo floating around space that gives us all of our morals. Don't believe me? Well, you're relying on faith as much as I am!

[MidnightRambler]

quote:Originally posted by boozehound420:

This guys an idiot

This thread makes me laugh. I'm a Christian for the record, but I'm pretty damn sure atheists have souls. I mean, atheists just like everyone else, (can, there will always be bad people) live good lives, and if there's a God, I'm pretty sure he won't deny someone who has lived a good life access to Heaven just because they didn't believe in him.

[Sick_Boy]

I'm an atheist, and I'm quite confident that I have a soul...