Keep religion out of schools and government, or else

[boozehound420]

In the 13,14th century islam was leading the way in science and education. Something during there history happend and now education is unheard of. Religion has taken over there way of life.

If the traditionalists, christians whatever you wanna call them get there way the same will happen to north america. It started with them redifining the defenition of science. Trying to get intellegent design to be taught in schools. Now there are still places that have managed to get evolution knocked out of schools. In the process drasticly changing the way kids will look at science.

Science and education has prevailed in some major battles in the states. Where it went all the way up to a federal judge, and a trial with a jurry and everything. Well its obvious who won. The proof of evolution is immense, where as the proof for intelligent design is none.

[SAMMY249]

quote:Originally posted by boozehound420:

In the 13,14th century islam was leading the way in science and education. Something during there history happend and now education is unheard of. Religion has taken over there way of life.

If the traditionalists, christians whatever you wanna call them get there way the same will happen to north america. It started with them redifining the defenition of science. Trying to get intellegent design to be taught in schools. Now there are still places that have managed to get evolution knocked out of schools. In the process drasticly changing the way kids will look at science.

Science and education has prevailed in some major battles in the states. Where it went all the way up to a federal judge, and a trial with a jurry and everything. Well its obvious who won. The proof of evolution is immense, where as the proof for intelligent design is none.

This may surpris you but one of the founding fathers said you cant have a good government without God the politicians of the past understood this and you actually had to have a theological degree before you were able to become a lawyer.

The founding fathers understood the importance of God and country working together but through the years people have become more liberal and godless which is why you arrive at today where people like you want God left out without understanding what the founding fathers really wanted.

[boozehound420]

^^^have you even read your first ammendment.

I'm canadian and i even know what It ses. abraham lincoln was an atheist himself.

[king koopa]

quote:Originally posted by SAMMY249:

This may surpris you but one of the founding fathers said you cant have a good government without God the politicians of the past understood this and you actually had to have a theological degree before you were able to become a lawyer.

The founding fathers understood the importance of God and country working together but through the years people have become more liberal and godless which is why you arrive at today where people like you want God left out without understanding what the founding fathers really wanted.

You're an idiot.

[SAMMY249]

Yes I have read it but it never say seperation of church and state.

As for the other guy it is so easy to call me an idiot when you dont give a reason what i said was factually accurate.

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[MidnightRambler]

quote:Originally posted by boozehound420:

^^^have you even read your first ammendment.

I'm canadian and i even know what It ses. abraham lincoln was an atheist himself.

Where did you hear Lincoln was atheist?

[MexWanker]

quote:Originally posted by SAMMY249:

This may surpris you but one of the founding fathers said you cant have a good government without God the politicians of the past understood this and you actually had to have a theological degree before you were able to become a lawyer.

The founding fathers understood the importance of God and country working together but through the years people have become more liberal and godless which is why you arrive at today where people like you want God left out without understanding what the founding fathers really wanted.

That has nothing to do with fundamentalism and undereducation that you see the Christian right preach today (against evolution and stem cell research). Back then, the top colleges (Harvard, William & Mary, etc) were founded as theological schools. It required 10x more education to be a minister than to be a doctor or a lawyer. Being a minister was a top job back then which is why they would say something like that. The smartest people studied theology.

[Star Wars Fan]

Yes, keep religion (at least Christianity, Islam and Judaism) out of Government. Look at what it does.

[boozehound420]

quote:Originally posted by MidnightRambler:

Where did you hear Lincoln was atheist?

The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession.

-- Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Joseph Lewis in "Lincoln the Freethinker" http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/lincoln.htm

[boozehound420]

quote:Originally posted by SAMMY249:

Yes I have read it but it never say seperation of church and state.

As for the other guy it is so easy to call me an idiot when you dont give a reason what i said was factually accurate.

it doesnt say that clearly. But it gives freedom of religion, ANd removes any power of the government to do anything regarding religion. Therefor if the christian church (most popular in NA) was given power, do you actually think they would teach other religions in there schools. Would they embrase science if it went against there teachings.

Are you somebody who supports intelligent design? if so your an idiot

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