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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |

2007-11-17, 01:57
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The Devil's Advocate
I believe I can argue a theists case against athiest or scientific doctrine better than a theist can...
Many times I have said "Christians have proved to the world they are unfit to rule, due to the inquistitions and crusades attributed directly to this faith." Not once has someone simply stated "Science has not had the opportunity to prove it's failings in ruling the world, give it time".
Christians may have murdered millions based on their beliefs, but science has the power to murder nearly all intelligent life on Earth. In fact, it is science that is destroying the planet and life with it, not theism. When the earth is scorched in nuclear holocaust and covered in glowing snows of a nuclear winter, tell me science is better than faith. Tell me science is not the work of the devil herself.
What do you guys think? Pretty good argument for theism, or at least against science? I will be the devil's advocate in this thread.
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2007-11-17, 02:55
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http://tinyurl.com/28ozhm
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Re: The Devil's Advocate
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Originally Posted by BrokeProphet
Christians may have murdered millions based on their beliefs, but science has the power to murder nearly all intelligent life on Earth. In fact, it is science that is destroying the planet and life with it, not theism. When the earth is scorched in nuclear holocaust and covered in glowing snows of a nuclear winter, tell me science is better than faith. Tell me science is not the work of the devil herself.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillin
What does faith have to offer again? The nuclear holocaust will be a result of a conflict between two people, that view each other as the enemy. Religion separates people. Science heals people.
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2007-11-17, 03:12
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Deep South
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Re: The Devil's Advocate
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Originally Posted by BrokeProphet
Tell me science is not the work of the devil herself.
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Work!? Pssh. She doesn't even break a sweat when laboring with all that evil science. It's a walk in the park, a day at the beach and a very small task all rolled up into one.
You're playing the role of religious advocate to the hilt - assigning the female gender to the devil really makes your character more interesting, in a creepy-kinda-fundamentalist-way.
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2007-11-17, 04:34
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Re: The Devil's Advocate
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Originally Posted by BrokeProphet
What do you guys think? Pretty good argument for theism, or at least against science? I will be the devil's advocate in this thread.
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It is not an argument for theism or religion at all. You can be a theist and pro science, and you can be an atheist and against science. Your argument is solely against the destructive power of science.
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2007-11-17, 05:56
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Re: The Devil's Advocate
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Originally Posted by BrokeProphet
What do you guys think? Pretty good argument for theism, or at least against science?
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Nope.
But I bet you had a fun time thinking it up.
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2007-11-17, 06:20
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Re: The Devil's Advocate
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Originally Posted by AngryFemme
Work!? Pssh. She doesn't even break a sweat when laboring with all that evil science. It's a walk in the park, a day at the beach and a very small task all rolled up into one.
You're playing the role of religious advocate to the hilt - assigning the female gender to the devil really makes your character more interesting, in a creepy-kinda-fundamentalist-way.
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You mean you didn't know that Lucifer (Lucy) was a woman? Haven't you ever watched the Mr. Deity series? Episode 5 introduces Lucy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKM_JlCIMak
You gotta see them all. They're great.
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2007-11-17, 21:13
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Deep South
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Re: The Devil's Advocate
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Originally Posted by truckfixr
You mean you didn't know that Lucifer (Lucy) was a woman? Haven't you ever watched the Mr. Deity series? Episode 5 introduces Lucy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKM_JlCIMak
You gotta see them all. They're great.
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I must say, truckfxr - that was pretty damned entertaining.
Thanks for sharing!
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2007-11-17, 22:42
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Re: The Devil's Advocate
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Originally Posted by Real.PUA
It is not an argument for theism or religion at all. You can be a theist and pro science, and you can be an atheist and against science. Your argument is solely against the destructive power of science.
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If you are of the desire to paint theism as directly oppressing science for a thousand years, then it was really theists who held back the destructive power of science. It was men of God, who in his name, excommunicated or killed scientists.
Science is knowledge. We ate from the tree of knowledge once and that cost us immortality, to eat from it again will cost us our mortality.
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2007-11-17, 22:48
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Re: The Devil's Advocate
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Originally Posted by truckfixr
You mean you didn't know that Lucifer (Lucy) was a woman? Haven't you ever watched the Mr. Deity series? Episode 5 introduces Lucy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKM_JlCIMak
You gotta see them all. They're great.
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+1.
Very funny.
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2007-11-19, 09:01
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Re: The Devil's Advocate
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Originally Posted by BrokeProphet
If you are of the desire to paint theism as directly oppressing science for a thousand years, then it was really theists who held back the destructive power of science. It was men of God, who in his name, excommunicated or killed scientists.
Science is knowledge. We ate from the tree of knowledge once and that cost us immortality, to eat from it again will cost us our mortality.
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Not all theists oppressed scientists... and those that did did not oppress all scientific inquiry. They only oppressed that which contradicted their dogma.
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