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Old 2009-01-02, 00:36
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Question Re: Guide on the Theistic argument

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please spare me the third-rate internet psychology.
This is not confined to this thread, you blokes commonly pour scorn upon those you deem worthy of contempt, for what is this: "third-rate internet psychology", if not contempt? My intent was not analysis, as you judged through your apparent filter of contempt, but understanding. What makes you tick? Why bother? What do you get out of it? Is it an ego-trip or what? Should I believe the things you people say? What weight should I lend to your thoughts, assertions, logic and opinions? Can I trust them or, are you just using me in some sick pathetic attempt to bolster your egos?
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You should be interested in the truth or falsehood of what I say, not why I say.
"What is truth?" "Nobody cares how much you know until they know how much you care"
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Old 2009-01-02, 15:33
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That comment was made after you had made your accusation. Could you please show me "scorn" in this thread, before you accused me? I imagine you're not psychic, and therefore your accusation was based on something that had happened in the thread, not something that hadn't happened yet...

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for what is this: "third-rate internet psychology", if not contempt?
You are right. That statement, which I uttered after your accusation, is in fact contempt. I have nothing but contempt for your baseless attempts to psychoanalyze why I post on the internet.

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My intent was not analysis, as you judged through your apparent filter of contempt, but understanding.
Sorry, but attemts at "understanding" stop at "Why do you do X?". You making guesses afterwards is just rampant speculation/attacks in convenient question form.

By your logic, if I had said:

"Redzed why did you post such a false statement? Is it because you're dumb? A moron? Utterly fucking stupid? Is it because you were dropped as a child?" et cetera, that would be a legitimate attempt at "understanding".

You and I both know that's not the case. They pass the realm of "legitimate attempt to understand" when you start speculating. That they were in question form is inconsequential.

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"What is truth?" "Nobody cares how much you know until they know how much you care"
This has nothing to do with how much I know. I never once mentioned quantity, nor did I suggest people should care how much, or what, I know. I said you should care about the truth or falsehood of what I said.

2+2=4 is true regardless of whether I care a lot or I care a little. It is true regardless of whether I'm stating it in a "sick pathetic attempt to bolster my ego" or if I'm stating it in a healthy attempt to eduate you.

So, like I said, you should be interested in the truth or falsehood of what I say, not why I say.

Though if you want to discuss the "why" of things, why not start with why you only get this convenient curiousity when it's against people you disagree with? Why don't you ask these very same questions to Obbe, for example, who has called me a dick multiple times in multiple threads?
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Old 2009-01-03, 00:32
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This has nothing to do with how much I know.
That rings true! IMHO the only thing you know is how to argue, I can't recall any post of yours that shows care or concern for the others feelings, quite the opposite! If I was going for analysis BPD would be right up there, sure Obbe has reacted to your provocation, that's his problem; and don't come the raw prawn about no scorn in this thread. We've been on this site for a fair while and your MO is only too apparent!

Yeah sure, fair enough, it's a public forum but how you say things impacts how you are heard. To be fair I often enjoy your posts and the insights your POV allows, but as for trusting you enough to believe you speak the truth? Hard to do when being treated with contempt! And even if it is truth, what is your motivation? Even the devil quotes scripture!
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Old 2009-01-03, 00:57
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I can't recall any post of yours that shows care or concern for the others feelings, quite the opposite!
You are right. They are few and far between. I like it that way. I'm not on Totse to care about people's feelings.

If you personally believe that's important then fine, that's up to you. You are free to do so. I'm not stopping you.

If you don't like that most of my posts "don't show care or concern for others feelings" I suggest you use the ignore button. Its there for a reason.


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and don't come the raw prawn about no scorn in this thread.
Before your accusation, there was no scorn on my part in this thread. Sorry but that's just true, and it explains why you didn't give an example right now.

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but as for trusting you enough to believe you speak the truth? Hard to do when being treated with contempt! And even if it is truth, what is your motivation? Even the devil quotes scripture!
Who said anything about trusting me? This has nothing to do with trusting me; I didn't even use the word "trust" much less ask you to trust me. In fact I would love it if you wouldn't trust me, and actually researched the things I said for yourself. That would be great.

Again, my motivation does not change the truth or falsehood of my statements. 2+2 = 4 regardless of whether I have benign or "evil" motivations/intentions.

You should first be concerned about the truth first and foremost; definitely not about things you know nothing about, like my intentions, motivations, feelings, or amount of "care".
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Old 2009-01-03, 02:51
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You should first be concerned about the truth first and foremost; definitely not about things you know nothing about, like my intentions, motivations, feelings, or amount of "care".
Don't know what planet you're on Rust, but those are exactly the things I've learned to be concerned about! There's many a clever wordsmith with ulterior motives.
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Old 2009-01-03, 02:54
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Don't know what planet you're on Rust, but those are exactly the things I've learned to be concerned about! There's many a clever wordsmith with ulterior motives.
It's precisely because there are many a clever wordsmith out there with ulterior motives that you shouldn't care about those things. Any clever wordsmith can fake care, good intentions, benign motivations, et cetera.

Getting away with 2+2=5 on the other hand...
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Old 2009-01-03, 09:16
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It's precisely because there are many a clever wordsmith out there with ulterior motives that you shouldn't care about those things. Any clever wordsmith can fake care, good intentions, benign motivations, et cetera.

Getting away with 2+2=5 on the other hand...
You make a valid point, whilst still avoiding answering as to your true intent? That could be clever wordsmithing, and ego-tripping, get in the last word, then you throw the onus onto a hypothetical accusation. Man I really don't know about you! Are you fair dinkum or what? I have to ask myself, why would anyone treat me with contempt if they have a good intent?
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Old 2009-01-03, 14:24
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So I make a valid point... and then just ignore it and continue to focus on my irrelevant and easily faked "care" or "intent"?
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Old 2009-01-03, 20:02
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So I make a valid point... and then just ignore it and continue to focus on my irrelevant and easily faked "care" or "intent"?
Welcome to theistic argument!
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Old 2009-01-03, 20:25
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So I make a valid point... and then just ignore it and continue to focus on my irrelevant and easily faked "care" or "intent"?
It could not be pure ad hominem if he did not, now could it?

What else is he going to do, argue your points and assertions?

I think not.
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