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Interview with a 3- star general about UFO's
NOTE!! This is not the time for cowards as the people here seem to be.
They profess to want the public to know the truth but they will
not put their name to their testimony. COWARDS!!! The public
does not believe or accept anonymous stories. If this is real
it confirms much of what I have stated. It is not signed
though and I caution you not to accept readily what no one will
take credit for. Even though it backs me up you must be
cautious. Honorable men stand up and are counted. I suspect
that this is a creation of Don Ecker as he is well known for
interviewing people who will not sign their name. I am sure
that eventually he will produce more unsigned interviews as
that has sort of become his personal style.
Bill Cooper
age #16442 "ParaNet UFO"
Date: 06-Apr-90 00:12
From: Don Ecker
To: All
Subj: 3 Star Interview
To all ParaNet Members; When I uploaded the CARP.UFO report several
weeks ago, I mentioned another report that I had received. The CARP.UFO
report was an unsigned document, no signature, and no return address. As I
stated in reference to that, I gave no credence to the report because of the
manner that I received sent it, and am still waiting to hear back from his
group. The file is an alledged interview between two men, the interviewer is
under a pseudonym of Bill. The interviewee is supposed to be a retired Three
Star General that undertook a favor to "Bill" to check into the UFO question.
The man I spoke to is the director of this group, and even though he was
aware of who I am, and the reason for my questions, he refused to put me in
touch with either of the other two gentlemen "until they checked me out." I
am still waiting to hear from them.
Because of some of the subject matter in the report, I had a feeling
that there was quite a bit of information in this report that had been
deleted. According to the director I was right. He told me that
"Bill" was a still active duty Full Colonel and that 3 Star was at one
time Bill and his commanding officer. The deleted information is
supposed to contain some very disturbing information that deals with
mutilations, both animal and human, and a large number of abducted and
missing children and young adults. According to the director of this
group there were about 20 to 25 pages of deleted material. Also seen
but of course as is usual, a number of photos that 3 Star was able to
get at one point.
I would rate this report as highly strange, but at this point
unverifiable. At any rate here is the report and any suggestions from the
members are most certainly welcome. I will use Bill for the interviewer and
3* for the interviewee.
Don Ecker
*****************************************************************
THE INFORMATION IN THIS REPORT HAS BEEN EDITED FOR THE REASONS AS STATED
WITHIN. MUCH INFORMATION WAS DELETED FOR THE PURPOSE OF RELEASE TO THE
PUBLIC.
Bill> Have you read the book "The Roswell Incident"?
3*> Yes I have.
Bill> What did you think of the book and just how true is it?
3*> Bill, as I promised you, I used my contacts and several favors due me
over the years and I found out extremely sensitive information which
absolutely verify the information as stated in the Roswell Incident. The
book intrigued me as I read it. At first, I felt the facts or should I say
information in the book were there just to sell it and make our Govt. out to
be the bad guy...as so many books do today. However, the public has been
lied to for over 40 years. This bothers me a great deal. But decisions were
made decades ago. The situation in my opinion, is totally out of hand.
Bill> You look concerned and sound irritated. What is wrong?
3*> Around 4 months ago I called in several favors. I was given documents,
allowed to view video tape, given photographs, base locations and I was even
asked to participate in the "Awareness Program"...which is to disseminate
Alien contact to the public. I turned down the offer. When I did I was sort
of an outcast and I found friends of 30 years had no time for me. I soon was
limited to all forms of information. Hell, every time I requested anything
through normal channels it was either lost or delayed for "higher approval".
This was normal everyday decisions, which wer NEVER questioned before. I gave
over --30--years of faithful and loyal service to this great country of ours.
Who in the hell do those political bastards think they are anyway?
Bill> I don't know what to say. I feel that because I asked for the inquiry,
you got into trouble. I really feel bad. I know you didn't get where you
are today by taking it easy. Did you retire?
3*> You are not responsible! I kind-of knew what I might get myself into. I
always had my suspicionss and I to heard the rumors about alien spacecraft
that crashed, bodies found, alien craft shot down, UFO evidence stored in
special buildings on certain military bases. I just never really took it
seriously. I know it is true. I have seen the evidence, I have seen the
alien craft, the frozen bodies from the Roswell site and I have seen on video
tape, the live alien which is a guest of the U. S. Govt. To answer your last
question, yes I did retire.
Bill> Could you give some specific information on the Aliens, what they want,
the govt. involvement, the reason why we have not officially been told about
alien involvement in our society and why all of the many "strange" things or
happenings associated with UFO sightings and people-contact with aliens?
3*> There have been several crashes of UFOs over the years. From all
documentation and information available that I have seen with my own eyes as
well as the physical evidence, this is in answer to your questions.
1. The aliens really do not have any sort of invasion planned for this
planet. Aliens have visited this planet off and on for thousands of years.
Our U.S. guest is over 300 years old. There are both "good and bad" aliens
just as there are good and bad humans. They are not all that different from
us. The aliens utilize around 55% of their brain capacity or ability. The
aliens do have DNA, just like we do. The alien which is the guest of the
U.S. Govt. is 5 feet 3 inches tall and weights 96 pounds. Large head (no
hair) large slanted eyes. Some of the aliens' abilities include moderate
telepathy and telekinisis. The purpose of alien visitation to this planet is
one of curiosity and scientific research. Not world domination as some would
have you believe. Cattle and humans have been used in alien and U.S.
research for various biological applications. Most humans are not hurt in
this research and experimentation. Some however, have died due to
complications and down-right carelessness. Several cross-breed "young" have
been born to both human females and alien females. We as humans are fully
biological compatible with most visiting aliens. Some we are not. More that
one type or species of alien has visited this planet. They are listed by
category...this information I could not retrieve.
2. The U. S. Govt. and the British have made secret treaty agreements with
the aliens in exchange for technology and so-called recon missions during
times of human conflict. The aliens have basically agreed not to concern
themselves with the wars or conflicts of humans. Not to interfere in
society. Let the Govts. rule and decide. Exactly what the aliens get in
return was not exactly made clear or available. Also, there are special
teams which eradicate, discredit, harass and turmp-up charges to control
humans which experience any visitations from aliens, or make verifiable UFO
sightings. This is one of the reasons I retired. It's too much for any
govt. to impose upon the civilian population like this.
3. Many of the strange happenings which people experience with UFO
sightings can be one of two things. First, simply an overactive and wishful
imagination. Second and foremost is the influence of the vast mental power
of the alien visitors. In the reports and experiments conducted with live
aliens, they have an incredible power of telepathic suggestion. Combine this
with their telekentic abilities and just about anyone can be somewhat
directed to do or think just about anything. Did I cover all of your
questions?
Bill> One more and you'll be done. Why all the secrecy from day one about
the alien contact, the Roswell Incident, UFOs etc.?
3*> The Roswell Incident happened at a very hectic time . World problems and
domestic matters drew priority. Make no mistake, Pres. Truman and later
Pres. Eisenhower gave specific direct orders to keep everything and I mean
everything top secret. At that time, all alien (known as EBE) information
became departmentalized and dispersed on a need to know only basis. I as
well as others heard rumors and pursued our career with no further thought to
the matter. Also consider the fact that even with today's high technology we
still don't know all of the propulsion system, craft manufacture and so
forth. The most recent information that I did manage to receive before I was
cut off is that the alien craft has more-or-less been copied by top
scientific experts and is functional. The "special group" assigned to
oversee the alien situation and other govt. VIPs agree to gather all of the
tchnology possible and put it to use for the benefit of the USA. I really
wonder what other motives are there. One very important thought about
reasons for secrecy are common religioius values and beliefs. Most of the
world religions (especially in the US) would tumble. This in turn would
cause panic and chaos. Something not wanted or needed in any time. Look at
the big lie the Federal Govt. has created, promoted swore to and fed to the
public over the past 42 years. Even the Presidents of the US from 1947 to
present day has lied about this situation. Talk about a cover up? If this
information would ever get out, many people from the President down would be
removed from office. Many would go to jail in one form or another. My
information led me to other more graphic reasons that I really don't want to
discuss. This whole situation is fantastic enough and the imnplications are
endless. The "awareness program" that I mentioned earlier was designed to
inform the public about alien contact, landings, crashes, the Roswell
Incident, UFOs and the govt. All of this is filtered to the public in a
systematic, logical way. This is coupled with the increased alien-human
abductions and contacts. This is a joint govt. And alien program. If done
correctly, there will be extremely little or no panic and no resistance. The
world govts. will retain control and chaos is avoided.
Bill> Thank y ou very much for your time and this timely information.
3*> Now that I have found this information out, I wonder about everything I
could not access or was prevented from learning when I turned down the
position on the "awareness program"?
Bill> I know that I am pushing it a bit here but could you go into some of
the topics that seem to be eating away at you?
3*> Lets take a break from this interview for now. Its after 11:00 PM and
I'm tired. I'll give you a call in a few days and we will go from there.
Bill> It sounds good to me too. I've got a lot of work to do in the morning
so I better call it quits for now.
=================================================================
Message #16715 "ParaNet UFO"
Date: 07-Apr-90 21:43
From: Don Ecker
To: All
Subj: Part II
This is the second and final installment of the purported interview with
a retired 3 Star General, being interviewed by what was described to me as a
still active duty Full Colonel interested in the subject of UFOs. Now prior
to continuing with this, allow me to make an observation.
Since I uploaded part one of this file, and with the upload of the
previous file --CARP.UFO--I have received several files. I will answer like
this. First, I do not believe that any of us here have a really good and
solid idea of just what is happening in the bizarre world of UFOs. Since I
have started to explore this thing several years ago, believe me when I tell
you that I have experienced most of the angles of this subject. Everything
from the Space-Brothers are here to save us from ourselves, tales of ET love
affairs with the likes of the ledgendary Semjase (now that is one ET I would
LOVE to meet!) to tales of "Their here eating us!!" to the Leader of the free
world selling drugs to support MJ-12!!!! What this all boils down to is a
hell of alot of rhetoric and damn little proof. Oh, there is some proof to
be sure, ie mutilated cows, (you ain't lived till you have been up to your
elbows in one) scars on alledged abductee's (one gentleman told me that he
turned gay after his 16th birthday because of repeated abductions. He was
tired of being forced to copulate with alien females) landing traces (hard
baked soil compacted inches, something damn heavy had set down on it) and
tales from dozens of people, living in some cases a whole continent apart
(with the same information in uncanny ).
OK, what does this mean? In my opinion, it means that SOMETHING damn
strange IS INDEED ONGOING..... so, that means that the only way to find out
is investigate and investigate some more. Knowledge is power, so the reason
I have uploaded this files is that MAYBE someone out there in computer land,
(and you would be really suprised where all ParaNet DOES GO) will have a
missing piece of the puzzle, and better yet will contact one of we happy
little band of investigators --with PROOF ....................
And by the way, to those good meaning folks that have written me email,
just because I put something up here, it does not mean that I think this is
what really is happening. Always read what I have to say about the file in
advance. In this case, I stated that there is HIGH STRANGENESS in this one,
BUT NO PROOF THAT IT IS LEGITIMATE.
*****************************************************************
Part II of the 3 * interview. JULY 14, 1989
Bill> Thank you for agreeing to a second interview on this topic. Did you
enjoy your trip to the mountains?
3* > Yes my wife and I had a wonderful time.
Bill> What is bothering you so much about the alien situation?
3* > As I mentioned before, there have been several UFO crashes, not just the
one in Roswell, New Mexico. Look at the documents I brought with me. The
photos are quite explicit to the CARGO OF SOME OF THE UFOs.
Bill> Why are there children aboard these crafts!? My God! You don't mean
that the aliens are snaching our kids? What for??
3* > There are over a million missing children every year in the US alone.
Now, not all of them have been taken by aliens. The aliens take about 2,200
children a year from the US and other countries. Its all right there in the
report attached to the three photos. The rest of the missing children are
the result of mankind's dark side. You know what I mean. It's in the paper
every day. The children are used in several ways; biological, to educate and
return, experimentation, disease study. The same as adults.
Bill> Adults are one matter, but leave the children alone. I am very
bothered by this information. According to the report, implants are being
used on the people that are taken aboard UFOs and returned. Some of these
implants are microscopic in size (and smaller) and influence the growth,
function and learning capabilities of the individual. This is a very
detailed report. Could I have a copy?
3* > No, Sorry but you know our agreement was that you did not get to keep or
copy any paperwork. As well as the other matters we discussed.
Bill> That you did! I will keep my word, don't worry.
3* > I would like to mention a little bit more of why the public have not
been told the truth. Lets run through the whole thing rather quickly.
1. Security/Fear Factor; Everyone feels safe knowing that the US is one of
the dominate powers on Earth. Right? The Human race is in control and
science will solve it all. The simple fact is--if you take away the security
of people it is replaced with fear! Fear is the first step to chaos. Just
imagine what would happen if there was an announcement that the govts. are no
longer in control, we have aliens living among us, they have kidnapped our
people, used them as guinea pigs, killed them, manipulated our culture,
tampered with our food, created new diseases to study on us, have interbred
with us and there isn't a damn thing we can do about it. Now, how do you
think the public would react?
2. The fact that the Govt. have been lying, covering up the truth, have
given permission for abductions and experiments on the public. Keep in mind
that the agencies involved are highly covert, funded very well and have
almost absolute power (life and death) over anyone who interferes. How do
you think the public will react?
3. Cures for certain diseases, free electrical power, pollution free energy,
no longer a need for fossil fuels, abundant food and water for e veryone.
All of this has been possible for many years now. What would happen if this
technology was turned loose to the public? The tech report showed that
within the first year over 18 million people out of work. The monetary
system would collapse and all of the other problems that go along with it. A
REAL POSSIBILITY OF A GLOBAL NUCLEAR CONFLICT........ALL OUT OF FEAR!! Is it
really worth the chance?
Bill> What you say does make sense when you think about it. What is going on
with the sudden surge in UFOs, aliens, abductions and the like? Is this part
of the awareness program?
3* > Yes it is. The awareness program calls for the funding of movies, series
on TV, specials and books. All of the "front" money will filter its way to
fund a TV series or movie if it is deemed worthy of friendly, helpful alien
contact. An idea is passed along to the big named producers and directors
and if it takes hold, everything will fall in place and the funding starts.
It is really unique how it l works. No way to trace it to the govt. and the
people involved truely believe it is their own creative work. Everyone gets
into the act and no problems. After the movie hits the public, the reaction
and interest of the masses are carefully monitored. Abductions of humans are
both random and selective. Influential people are selected to either --
explain and guide the public or to serve some political need or requirement.
UFO sightings increase when needed to draw the attention of the public. You
must keep in mind that the mere mention of UFOs, aliens and the like will
draw weird looks, rumors and make people believe that you have a mental
problem, not playing with a full deck of cards and so forth. People will
make fun of you and will laugh at you! THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT.
AND WHO WANTS TO BE LAUGHED AT WHEN THEY ARE SERIOUS? The result is not one
will say anything unless there are many witnesses. The unique thing about
this subject is people don't want to believe. The general feeling is that
mankind is all. There is nothing else but God and Country. This is what
most people believe. I am not disputing or disagreeing with anything. I
just find it amazing that people in general are so damn stupid and stubborn.
Let alone that many are so pompous and self-rightous about their religion and
self image. Do these people have a rude awaking someday! It can surely be
said that we are not alone in this universe.
Bill> How large are UFOs? What type of propulsion system do the crafts use?
Do you have any photographs I could look at?
3* > The alien crafts are disc, triangle, oblong cigar shaped. They range
from 30 ft in diameter for the smaller recon discs to over 730 ft in diameter
for the larger "mother" discs or the flying saucer, if you will. The
triangle shaped crafts are 210 ft. in diameter. This does not seem to change
as you can see in the photos which show 3 different triangle crafts which all
measure the same and are identical in shape and appearance. The oblong cigar
shaped craft is the real big one of the three. The only one ever found by the
military in the late 60's measured 1,100 ft. long with a circumference of 310
feett. Take a look at this photo and read the report attached. The
information gathered from this one enabled us to copy the basics of alien
technology. It took 20 years to do so. The basic propulsion system or drive
is a fusion reactor which ranges in size from about the size of a medicine
ball, you know the one tossed around in gym class, to about the size of a
large Van or station wagon. It is a magnetic drive surrounded by an aura of
bright white light. This is for the disc and triangle shaped crafts. The
oblong cigar shaped craft does not have this aura of light. All crafts are
almost totally silent. There is some noise.
Bill> I can't believe the photos! This looks like something right out of the
movies. The other report information which is stapled to the photos is very
detailed. This information is both fantastic and very scary! I wish I could
share this proof that I am now holding in my hands. I know, I won't ask
again. You have to get this evidence back where it belongs before it is
noticed missing, don't you?
3* > Yes I do. If this documentation ever got out I am sure several
individuals would be terminated. The powers that be have a systematic method
and program that deals with documentation, verification and termination of
information and personnel. The most important asset to the Govt. on the
subject of aliens, UFOs, cover-up story and the like is simply the "OVERALL
PROJECTION OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE UFO EXPERIENCES IS ONE OF FANTASY, DELUSIONS,
MIS-CONCEPTIONS, UNRELIABLE KOOKS AND CRACK-POTS AND DOWN RIGHT LIARS." Also
keep in mind that the news reporters and the news media in general, poke fun
at individuals with their quirk smile and light attitude about the whole
thing. Matters can be documented. The proof is out there and is available.
Many people must come down off their high horse and open their eyes. It is no
shame to admit that you are wrong. No one knows everything and no one should
be expected to.
Bill> It seems to me that you have talked to several people about this
subject and the outcome has been negative? At least as you describe the
general attitude earlier. Maybe we ought to wrap this issue up?
3* > I really hate to be sour about this subject but the people of this
planet have a God given right to the truth. Many people will not believe
what has been stated herein. Many questions are raised and can not be
answered. Certainly not to the satisfaction of many. Until the day comes
when the big announcement and/or experience happens to you --the individual--
you will be too busy and skeptical. Just like I was!
Bill> Thank you for everything you have done for me. As I agreed to do
earlier, I will edit out the graphic details and other information you
requested to cover your identity and prevent the people who helped you obtain
the documentation from being suspected.
3* > I am well aware that there are no guarantees when this informatioon hits
the media. I just hope that the people involved with this whole UFO, alien,
and Govt. connection will come forward and let the world know. I feel that
mankind will become mature enough to think before acting in the coming decade
of the 1990's.
************************END OF FILE****************************
END OF TRANSCRIPTION FROM MASTER TAPE--EDITED AS PER AGREEMENT---
( from the hard copy----D. E. )
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