Darwinism and god (serious)

#1 2006-03-13, 22:48

I'm not sure if this belongs in here or anything, mods feel free to move it (please don't close it though), but for a school persuasive essay, I was given this subject. Unfortunetly, I have absolutely no idea how to compare these two.

To make it all worse, I have to present a 4 minute speech on why Darwin's viewpoint is right.

Could anybody give me some ideas, thoughts or comments on this?

kenwih · #2 2006-03-13, 23:59

do you mean evolution vs creation?

use google fool or search the numerous threads that discuss that very thing.

think fossils, dna evidence, comparative anatomy, etc.

xtreem5150ahm · #3 2006-03-14, 05:07

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quote:Originally posted by butch:

To make it all worse, I have to present a 4 minute speech on why Darwin's viewpoint is right.

LOL

It seems as though the teacher is not only bias, but forcing his bias on unsuspecting children.

And they claim that Christians are brainwashed.

LOL

Apoxyus · #4 2006-03-14, 05:16

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quote:Originally posted by xtreem5150ahm:

LOL

It seems as though the teacher is not only bias, but forcing his bias on unsuspecting children.

And they claim that Christians are brainwashed.

LOL

Religion was removed from school, and in science the teachers are supposed to teach evolution and darwinism, and how it ties in with the real world. Social Darwinism is very real, and if you think that shouldn't be taught then you know nothing of this world, and you need to go back to school or die.

xtreem5150ahm · #5 2006-03-14, 05:25

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quote:Originally posted by Apoxyus:

Religion was removed from school, and in science the teachers are supposed to teach evolution and darwinism, and how it ties in with the real world. Social Darwinism is very real, and if you think that shouldn't be taught then you know nothing of this world, and you need to go back to school or die.

Social Darwinism is not the topic... maybe you need a remedial reading and comprehension class

His essay (persuasive type, 1 ea) is on "Darwinism and god ", which also tends to leave out your arguement of "religion removed from school"... not to mention that it sounds as if this is an assignment from a non-science class.

Apoxyus · #6 2006-03-14, 05:30

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quote:Originally posted by xtreem5150ahm:

Social Darwinism is not the topic... maybe you need a remedial reading and comprehension class

His essay (persuasive type, 1 ea) is on "Darwinism and god ", which also tends to leave out your arguement of "religion removed from school"... not to mention that it sounds as if this is an assignment from a non-science class.

I never said Social Darwinism was the topic dumbass. They first teach kids in science about darwin and evolution. Then when the kids get older they teach them about the social side of it, and how it pertains to the world. Perhaps you are the remedial one.

xtreem5150ahm · #7 2006-03-14, 05:47

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quote:Originally posted by Apoxyus:

I never said Social Darwinism was the topic dumbass. They first teach kids in science about darwin and evolution. Then when the kids get older they teach them about the social side of it, and how it pertains to the world. Perhaps you are the remedial one.

Thank you for the kind words.. glad you think i am a remedy, but i cant take credit.. my faculties are on loan from God... but i am TRYING to help.

As far as the rest of your post, nice attempt at trying to save face...

truckfixr · #8 2006-03-14, 05:53

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quote:Originally posted by xtreem5150ahm:

LOL

It seems as though the teacher is not only bias, but forcing his bias on unsuspecting children.

And they claim that Christians are brainwashed.

LOL

It's not bias when it's true. Whether you like it or not, there are mountains of emperical evidence supporting Darwin's views. Thus , the scientific Theory Of Evolution is accepted and is taught in our public school systems.

The position the student was assigned is far easier to defend (with the emperical evidence available) than if he were to have been assigned to defend any metaphysical view.

Real.PUA · #9 2006-03-14, 05:57

How is science biased again? Or right, its biased against irrationality... The fact of the matter is that Darwin was right.

You may not believe that, but the scientific community does, and if you want to learn about one of the most important scientific theories of all time you have to learn about Darwin. It's also important to show that the arguments made by Intelligent Design Creationists have been completely refuted by mainstream science.

Someone needs to explain that certain beliefs are just bullshit. If not teachers, then who?

xtreem5150ahm · #10 2006-03-14, 06:00

QUOTE Originally posted by truckfixr:

It's not bias when it's true. Whether you like it or not, there are mountains of emperical evidence supporting Darwin's views. Thus , the scientific Theory Of Evolution is accepted and is taught in our public school systems.

No, there are mountains of evidence supporting the presumption of long ages.. but that is only from and because of, a preconcieved perspective (bias).

BUT....

The position the student was assigned is far easier to defend (with the <<snipped>> evidence available) than if he were to have been assigned to defend any metaphysical view.

I will agree with you here, that it is easier to defend.

Time for bed

Johnny