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The following is from several sources, but the primary source is called "The Encyclopedia of Psychotropic Drugs.":

BTW, If I'm posting repeats of FAQs already researched, or wasting people's time, tell me and I'll be glad to stop researching and posting this material. I don't want to waste bandwidth on something which has already been analyzed or is well known.

The spice Nutmeg comes from the seed 'Myristica fragrans', a tropical evergreen tree grown in the Moluccas and East Indies. In the 17th century, nutmeg was introduced to Europe by Dutch explorers for the pungent fragrance and sweet tasting qualities as a flavoring for baked goods, candies, puddings, meats and beverages like eggnog.

The achieve the equivalent experience of 1-marijuana cigarette, one would have to imbibe 10 grams of nutmeg. However, the side-effects are not so pleasant: dizziness, flushes, dry mouth, accelerated heartbeat, consitpation, urinary difficulty, and on some occasions - panic. Nutmeg very rarely causes hallucinations, simply due to the fact that the required dose to cause them is so high that a person could die from the toxic effects.

Due to the severe side-effects, nutmeg is not a popular street drug and the people who tend to use it are prisoners who don't have access to anything else.

There was a big Saturday night rave occuring (big by Brisbane's standards anyway)My friend and I due to being short of money were unable to buy any chemicals so we decided to give nutmeg a whirl.We wandered up to the local health food store where we purchased two different types of nutmeg. The whole nutmeg was then ground down to a fine powder.I decided to try the batch from Indonesia while my friend opted for the stuff from Sri Lanka. My Indonesian Nutmeg was of a lighter colour where my friend's was a dark rich colour.This was the main reason he chose it, he later stated. We both consumed it at 6.30 pm since I had read on the network that it took up to 5 hours to come on. Bullshit to say the least , after the consumption of 3 tablespoons each I started to feel a bit drunk within 20 minutes. Within 1 hour I felt really drunk, my speech was slurred , I could not walk in straight line and generally felt fucked.What was I going to feel like in 4 hours? This thought scared me.One hour passed and I started to feel more energetic , the phone rang and I answered it knowing it would be my friend. My friend was on the line telling me he felt really stoned and had totally lost it in front of his parents just previously.Since I would be meeting him in about 1 hour I got ready to go.When I arrived at his house to go to the rave I was feeling darn good. The nutmeg was acting like virtually every drug I have ever taken. I had all the effects of alcohol , the increased confidence as well as all the others. My thought process changed as well with me coming up with some weird abstract shit, that always happens when I have a smoke.By about 10 pm I was peaking, I was having mild hallucinations and quite good ones if I closed my eyes. Nutmeg was also a very funny drug My friend and I were laughing uncontrollably and could not get into the music as much as we have liked to. I started dancing but had to quit since I was laughing at people on the dance floor. I quit before I got my head kicked in. By 12 pm the spin was just as intense as it was 2 hours earlier , and my face started to show the signs. My eyes were so red and I could not keep them open , I generally looked wasted.My friend was doing unreal , he was sitting in a corner laughing hysterically looking like an asylum patient. By 2 am the intensity had not declined and I was getting really tired of the spin. Minutes later my friend ran out of the rave with me following as soon as possible. I managed to see him throw up and pass out.(NO shit) I thought this was going to last as long as LSD but I was wrong , the nutmeg spin lasted longer.I left the rave at 6am still spinning off my dial.My friend was still outside although he had crawled 10 metres to be found sleeping under a tree.The next day was a blur as had been the night before. My friend who is postman , did not go to work on Monday. Took an extra 2 hours to do his run on Tuesday(Got in huge trouble) and rode his bike into an embankment on Wednesday spilling all the mail onto a main road. He did not straighten up until Friday. I was completely straight on Tuesday.All in all I quite liked nutmeg but hte intensity was too much, the feeling generated could not be defined, but fucked comes in to mind a lot I think I will stick to E's but they are damn hard to come by lately.

The Natural Highs FAQ made Nutmeg sound like a substance definitely worth avoiding, but after talking to a friend of mine, I decided to give it a try. It didn't do much, but I was extremely groggy for the remainder of the following day (something I didn't relate to the Nutmeg for quite some time)...

I didn't give up, however, and I decided that I had a neat alternative to watching the Super Bowl... I kept a little account of what happened - it reads as follows:

4:35 P.M. : I toss enough nutmeg in my mouth to make closing it difficult (due to a snap of the wrist that was a bit more zealous than I'd planned). Ice water as a chaser (that -has- to be relatively safe).

5:20 P.M. : Felt like about a tablespoon this time. I've been eating quite a few itty bitty rice cakes, due to hunger.

5:35 P.M. : Effectively finished off my bottle of nutmeg... I barely coaxed down 2 more mouthfuls of about 1/2 tbsp each. Let's assume about 3.75 tbsp over the past hour.

8:51 P.M. : Unbelievably dizzy, and my hearing is indefinate. I feel soooo heavy. I am sinking constantly, and my vision is slowed. Neat. Pleasant. Relaxed.

9:08 P.M. : Same as above, but I am spinning, also. This is still very relaxing and peaceful. My head is swimming especially, and my motions feel much different than I am used to - sort of as if the motions are dragging behind the limbs that are moving.

9:20 P.M. : Just got off telephone - my short-term memory is virtually nonexistant - I couldn't repeat something I'd said 10 seconds ago. I had been watching Acidwarp, and - wow. It was unbelievable. Somehow my vision seems amplified. I noticed patterns I'd never seen before, and I felt like I was "in" many of them. I am spinning in 10 ways at once, slowly. On my way to bed.

6:05 A.M. : I wake up, with a bit of a headache, and a mild spinning sensation. I'm a bit tipsy, a little less balance than I'd like, but I'm not moving inefficiently.

6:06 P.M. : Almost all the effects are gone, I had cottonmouth pretty bad all day, and I was weak - not tired, but weak, and my head was never quite still. Not at all unpleasant, just a bit of an inconvenience.

I went back and edited that a tad, because a few of the errors I made were embarassing - I dropped some punctuation, spelling, even a word or two...

Anyhow, I really enjoyed this. I used pre-ground nutmeg, bought relatively recently... It's not something I plan to use regularly, but I have some whole nutmeg I plan try try freshly-ground... I've also heard good things about mixing it with mace. I never felt sick, apart from certain times during the hangover on Monday (I had P.E. that day at school - somewhat nasty, I'll admit.)

For thsoe of you that missed it, "Acidwarp" (which I referred to) is this wonderful PC VGA kaleidescope program written by Noah Spurrier. I always liked it, but I am definitely glad I thought to watch it while I was on the nutmeg. Also - I went to sleep listening to music (Skinny Puppy, actually..) That was nifty, as I heard things differently. Most of the new things I heard were in the higher ranges, which made the entire CD sound different. I noticed some spoken words I'd never heard before and can't find again - either they're not meant to be heard consciously, or I was putting it there myself.

The only unpleasant part of this at all was the hangover, and that was even kind of nice - it was refreshing to have something to do at school... I found that I felt as if I was falling, most of the time. If I leaned to the side, I kept going that way for quite some time. If I leaned to the left, and then the right, I kept falling in both directions for quite some time. I would have to say that this was, all together, a positive experience. Anyone else have a story to share?

I tryed Nutmeg a few months ago, about 3 Tb worth all at once with a cold milk to wash it down. Took about 2 hours to kick in and felt like a big pot buzz but with the dizzyness one gets after drinking too much, very prone to giggle at one point. I have no visuals like say LSD but I did seem to like to view colorful patterns (this book on fractals I have was nice to look at) my short term memory was impared, but not too extreme

The next day I was in a daze, if any of you out there ever want to try this make shure it's a friday, vacation, or you have extra sick days because I wouldn't suggest you go to work/school after doing nutmeg I had school the next day, real lousy like walking in your sleep, It wasn't bad per say, but way too much thinking and walking then I was in the mood for.

but overall I give nutmeg a thumbs up, didn't feel sick once, well I felt ill downing it though .. very icky, the high has it's nice points and when it was over no trouble getting to sleep (prepare to CRASH hard after wards, and sleep like a log) unlike acid

I just read that 5-10 grams of nutmeg is good for a "trip". Speaking from a personal experience 2 table spoons is more than enough (I don't know how many grams that is). Speaking from personal experience again, don't do it, it sucks, makes you feel shitty and gives you a trip that's more like a raging fever than an altered state of consciousness. As I said, this is my personal experience (and a few friends as well) --others may have more fun with it.

Never tried it, but I do recall reading somewhere that one of the side-effects of Nutmeg is that it can leave you blind for several days... This source recommended fairly strongly against doing nutmeg. Is this just urban legend?

I've tried nutmeg once, years ago. Clueless as to how much my friend and I took, but we tried it with everything; water, milk, soda, straight, and it tastes like shit no matter how you take it. Afterward...nothing. The night went by and nothing happened. However, when I woke up in the morning, the walls were breathing for several minutes. My friend reported spider webs covering the floor of the classroom he was in. Other than that...nothing.

{Myristica fragrans}, a tropical evergreen tree found in East and West Indes. Contains a number of methylenedioxy-substituted compounds, including myristicin (3-methoxy,4,5-methylendioxy-allylbenzene, and a non-amine precursor of 3-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxyamphetamine), elemicin, and safrole (specifically 3,4-methylene-dioxyallylbenzene, and a non-amine precursor of 3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine). It also contains elemycin, eugenol, and methyleugenol \footnote{Weill, Andrew. Nutmeg as a Narcotic. 1965. 19(3), 194-217.}.

Myristicin constitutes about two thirds of the aromatic ether fraction, but it cannot account entirely for the psychoactivity of nutmeg. A 400-mg dose of myristicin, almost twice the amount present in 20 gm of nutmeg (20 gm being assumed to be the quantity required to produce psychotropic effects) produces only mild effects\footnote {Schultes and Hofmann. The Botany and Chemistry of Hallucinogens. p. 121}. The author is am not aware of any trial involving an accurate mix of all of the known aromatic ethers. Those occurring at more than 10 mg per 20 g are myristicin (210 mg), elemicin (70 mg), safrole (39 mg), methyleugenol (18 mg), and methylisoeugenol (11 mg). Safrole is probably not psychoactive, so elemicin might be worth investigating, thought it is doubtful that it alone can account for the activity.

The only known mechanism of metabolization of these compounds is the detoxification of safrole to piperonylic acid, a reaction which also shows the capability of oxidizing olefinic side chains. If this same degenerative process will act on myristicin, or elemicin, then a possible intermediate (a vinyl alcohol) could undergo transamination producing 3,4,5-trimethoxyamphetamine, which is known to have similar effects.

Whatever it is that causes the psychotropic effect, it is known that various terpenes enhance the absorption. 5-20 grams of the ground nutmeg may be ingested for mild intoxication lasting about twelve hours and followed by deep sleep. May cause temporary constipation and difficulty in urination, nausea, increased fat deposits on liver, etc. Beneficial as a spice but not recommended in large amounts as a hallucinogen. Safrole may be carcinogenic, and is definitely a hepatotoxin in larger amounts.