War on terrorism making America less safe?

[mindh4X0rz]

Originally Posted by Parallax

I'm much more concerned about a tyrannical government than I am about terrorists. The worst the terrorists can do is blow up a bus here and there, and they have a hard time even just pulling that off. 9/11 was a fluke, made possible in part by government enforced victim disarmament laws. It won't happen again.

    

[Zman]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Beast

I think you should change your name to zboy.

why??

[Zman]

Originally Posted by napoleon_complex

How can you say that it isn't that far away? They haven't made any of the political goals we've set. The number of independent troops in Iraq has dropped in the last year. What on God's green earth is telling you that the Iraqis are even remotely close to being able to hold their own?

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/news....aspx?id=46777
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?op...871&It emid=1

Kicking Al-Qaida's ass, the insurgents are turning on them. They are meeting other goals besides the political goals, their troops are taking on more responsibility. I'm not saying it will be pretty whenever we leave, but it is a lot better that just getting the fuck out without thinking what is going to happen.

[AeroDynamic]

Originally Posted by napoleon_complex

Our middle east foreign policy has, with few exceptions, been pro-Israel for the past few years. A few exceptions doesn't change the fact(nor the perception) that America is overwhelmingly pro-Israel.

I never said we should abandon Israel, but if you don't think the fact that we're constantly looking out for Israel while other middle eastern countries are but an afterthought doesn't affect how we're viewed in the region, then you're insane.

You never answered my last question though. What specifically about Arab/Islamic culture makes them more likely to commit terrorism, terrorism that is specifcally targeted against America and our allies?

The problem with Islam is the same problem that Christianity had. Lack of liberalism, democracy and modernization. Like I said earlier, there is a reason why there are no more Crusades and Inquisitions.

[napoleon_complex]

Originally Posted by Zman

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/news....aspx?id=46777
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?op...871&It emid=1

Kicking Al-Qaida's ass, the insurgents are turning on them. They are meeting other goals besides the political goals, their troops are taking on more responsibility. I'm not saying it will be pretty whenever we leave, but it is a lot better that just getting the fuck out without thinking what is going to happen.

Yeah, no where in those links does it say the Iraqis are capable of taking over soon.

The government is basically worthless right now. They have no power, either symbolic or real. Did you miss that interim report about the progress in Iraq delivered like a week ago?

Here's a link:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20070712.html

This is basically sugar coated, but even though it puts a rosy spin on things, it still says that extremely little progress is being made.

Aero, can you explain exactly what role our foreign policy has played in the middle east. Since it apparently hasn't made them hate us, what has it done?

[among_the_living]

We will never be safe until we stop forming/training/funding these groups who we are apparently "fighting"

[Jeebus Mic]

Here's some food for thought.

Canadian Muslim Plotted a Terrorists Attack in Canada, because Canadian Troops were in Afghanistan.

So being involved in the "correct" country and in the correct War doesn't stop you from being targeted.