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Politics: Left, Right, and Center National, state, regional, and local politics. Who's doing what to whom, and what you can do about it. How-to-get-action messages are encouraged. "How the government fucked up my life" stories are encouraged. Sharing new methods for cheating on taxes is encouraged. Sample "letters to congresscritters" are encouraged. Apathy and "I can't do anything" posts are discouraged. Left, right, centrist, or any other form of political-economic systems are all up for discussion. Be prepared to defend yourself, or at least have a good line of bullshit ready. Extensive quoting of economists and philosophers is frowned upon. We want to hear what YOU have to say, not what some constipated, impotent, dead guy dreamt up while suffering from the DT's over a hundred years ago thought.

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Old 2007-04-22, 04:19
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In the feud between Palestinians and Israelis the Israelis hold the key to peace. If anyone could get peace started it would be the Israelis. The government imposed ghettos isn't exactly winning hearts and minds. Neither are the bulldozing of neighborhoods or the wreckless airstrikes. It is alot easier to change government policy than the mindset of an entire people. The second is only possible after things change for those people.
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Old 2007-04-22, 04:36
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Only uncompromising hardliners believe in what you believe in, whether they be Zionist hardliners or Palestinian hardliners. I believe views like yours is actually the cause of the Arab-Israel conflict: inflexibility and the inability to compromise with the other side. Recognizing the grievances of both sides is a first step in the peace process. Blaming one side or putting the onus for peace on only one side is pointless and leads nowhere.

The simple truth is that all the parties hold the key to peace. Not just Israel or the Palestinians or the Arabs or the Americans, but all.
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Old 2007-04-22, 04:43
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The question is who is exerting more control over the situation? That group is the one who can get something done.
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Old 2007-04-22, 04:49
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The question is who is exerting more control over the situation? That group is the one who can get something done.
That is not the question.

The question is can both sides act in reciprocity?
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Old 2007-04-22, 05:45
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palestinians are just a huge fuckin burden. egypt and jordan hold the key to middle eastenr peace. if they let all those palestinian rats refuge in their countries, then israel would have their lebensraum, arabs would be united, and everybody could hold hands, smoke hookah, and wear flowers in their hair.
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Old 2007-04-22, 20:45
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That is not the question.

The question is can both sides act in reciprocity?
They can and do. One attacks, the other then counter attacks.
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Old 2007-04-23, 01:30
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In the feud between Palestinians and Israelis the Israelis hold the key to peace. If anyone could get peace started it would be the Israelis. The government imposed ghettos isn't exactly winning hearts and minds. Neither are the bulldozing of neighborhoods or the wreckless airstrikes. It is alot easier to change government policy than the mindset of an entire people. The second is only possible after things change for those people.
You've never read the bible have you?
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Old 2007-04-23, 02:05
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You've never read the bible have you?
And I'm guessing you have never heard of Neturei Karta.

"Because of all of this and other reasons the Torah forbids us to end the exile and establish a state and army until the Holy One, blessed He, in His Glory and Essence will redeem us. This is forbidden even if the state is conducted according to the law of the Torah because arising from the exile itself is forbidden, and we are required to remain under the rule of the nations of the world, as is explained in the book VAYOEL MOSHE. If we transgress this injunction, He will bring upon us (may we be spared) terrible punishment."

I guess that one guy who fulfilled a few but not all of the prophesies 2000 years ago would justify your support.
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Old 2007-04-23, 12:17
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Al-Qaeda and Iranian allies 'plan Hiroshima attack'
April 23, 2007 04:26pm

AL-QAEDA leaders in Iraq are planning the first "large-scale" terrorist attacks on Britain and other western targets with the help of supporters in Iran, according to a leaked intelligence report.

Spy chiefs warn that one operative had said he was planning an attack on "a par with Hiroshima and Nagasaki" in an attempt to "shake the Roman throne", a reference to the West, according to The Times newspaper in the UK.

Another plot could be timed to coincide with Tony Blair stepping down as prime minister, an event described by al-Qaeda planners as a "change in the head of the company".

The report, produced earlier this month and seen by The Sunday Times, appears to provide evidence that al-Qaeda is active in Iran and has ambitions far beyond the improvised attacks it has been waging against British and American soldiers in Iraq.

There is no evidence of a formal relationship between al-Qaeda, a Sunni group, and the Shiite regime of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, but experts suggest that Iran’s leaders may be turning a blind eye to the terrorist organisation’s activities," reports The Times.

The intelligence report also makes it clear that senior al-Qaeda figures in the region have been in recent contact with operatives in Britain.

It follows revelations last year that up to 150 Britons had travelled to Iraq to fight as part of al-Qaeda’s "foreign legion". A number are thought to have returned to the UK, after receiving terrorist training, to form sleeper cells.

The report was compiled by the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC) - based at MI5’s London headquarters - and provides a quarterly review of the international terror threat to Britain. It draws a distinction between Osama Bin Laden and al-Qaeda’s core leadership, who are thought to be hiding on the Afghan-Pakistan border, and affiliated organisations elsewhere.

The document states: "While networks linked to AQ (al-Qaeda) Core pose the greatest threat to the UK, the intelligence during this quarter has highlighted the potential threat from other areas, particularly AQI (al-Qaeda in Iraq)."

The report continues: "Recent reporting has described AQI’s Kurdish network in Iran planning what we believe may be a large-scale attack against a western target.

"A member of this network is reportedly involved in an operation which he believes requires AQ Core authorisation. He claims the operation will be on 'a par with Hiroshima and Naga-saki' and will 'shake the Roman throne'. We assess that this operation is most likely to be a large-scale, mass casualty attack against the West."

The report says there is "no indication" this attack would specifically target Britain, "although we are aware that AQI . . . networks are active in the UK".

Analysts believe the reference to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, where more than 200,000 people died in nuclear attacks on Japan at the end of WWII, is unlikely to be a literal boast.

"It could be just a reference to a huge explosion," said a counter-terrorist source. "They (al-Qaeda) have got to do something soon that is radical otherwise they start losing credibility."

Despite aspiring to a nuclear capability, al-Qaeda is not thought to have acquired weapons grade material. However, several plots involving "dirty bombs" - conventional explosive devices surrounded by radioactive material - have been foiled.

Last year al-Qaeda’s leader in Iraq called on nuclear scientists to apply their knowledge of biological and radiological weapons to "the field of jihad".

Details of a separate plot to attack Britain, "ideally" before Blair steps down this summer, were contained in a letter written by Abdul al-Hadi al-Iraqi, an Iraqi Kurd and senior al-Qaeda commander.

According to the JTAC document, Hadi "stressed the need to take care to ensure that the attack was successful and on a large scale". The plan was to be relayed to an Iran-based al-Qaeda facilitator.


http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21605699-2,00.html
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inuteroteen is another mentally retarded criminal muslim terrorist.
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