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This is probably a retarded thread and I'm going to get flamed, but whatever...
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~checks~ no... actually, you didn't mention ephedrine anywhere in your post!
...truth be told, these are the exact sorts of things we
like. We all remember starting out, we love sharing the love of the art, and the people who piss us off tend to be the people babbling on about "I heard you can make meth from raid how do you make meth from raid??" (to which the only answer is "huff it and see").
...so... welcome to lab tips!
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Originally Posted by greesh
I was wondering what kind of shit I can do at home...
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...nanotechnology and other advanced synthesis should be no problem.
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...and internet resources that I can read up on about organic chem, like lessons and shit, not just summarys like wikipedia, which are pretty much the only things that I could find.
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Well, wikipedia's actually pretty dank once it starts getting into stubs on named syntheses... but you might wanna google the phrase "rhodium archive" for starters...
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Originally Posted by greesh
I'm sure I can convince my parents to allow me to purchase a set of glassware and non dangerous chemicals to conduct experiments and shit, but I wouldn't know where to start at all.
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Luckily, you can do a *lot* with just what you've got in your kitchen!
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Originally Posted by greesh
My main goal is just to learn more about organic chemistry since its the summer time and besides for working a day job and going to the gym theres really nothing else to do.
Thanks in advance for anyone who helps.
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Well, the basics of chemistry revolve around two major things :
1. Oil and water don't normally mix.
2. Acid + base makes salt.
...it's simple, but the ways to apply them are endless...
...if you want some other neat stuff to apply, here's a few equations :
1. Let n = 1 .. infinity
2. Let l = 0.. (n-1)
3. Let m = -l .. +l
4. Let p = +/- 1/2.
...and just to explain things early, n is the orbital, l is the suborbital, m is the magnetic moment, and p is the electron spin...
So, for the first value of n... l = 0, m = 0, and p = +/- 1/2... that is to say, there can be an electron pair, where one has particle spin of + 1/2, and one has particle spin of - 1/2.
l=0 suborbitals are called
s orbitals. Without hybridization, they all behave the same, more or less... so, for the first orbital, there is only one suborbital, which can have between 1 or 2 electrons.
...if this is the outer shell, the elements are hydrogen and helium, respectively.
Now, let's see what happens in the second orbital - when n=2...
l can be either 0 or 1. When l=0, we have an
s subshell... and when l=1, we have a
p subshell. Doing the math, it has 6 electrons in its outer shell, contained in 3 electron pairs - that is to say, it can at most have a valence of 3, when its shell is half-full... and when the magnetic moment (m) of 1, 0, and -1 for a
p suborbital is entirely filled with electrons of spin(p) + 1/2, but, these electrons are not paired with electrons of spin - 1/2.
Now... go look at a periodic table. The 2s subshell is lithium and beryllium (I think... second row)... and the 2p is the part that contains nitrogen, carbon, flourine, etc...
...this should let you calculate the valence of (almost) anything. It should also let you tell how (almost) anything will react, at least in its most plain and straightforward reactions : the weak nuclear force prefers that each orbital be filled and paired (a p6 configuration - the "noble gases" on the right side), and will form covalent or even ionic bonds to do this - but will settle for each suborbital being filled (such as a p0 in something that's normally a p1 outer shell), and will generally react in whatever way requires the gain or loss of the lowest number of electrons to attain completeness, as the weak nuclear force (which creates these orbitals and pressures completion of the shell) is balanced against the electrostatic force in the atom (which wants the number of +protons and -electrons to match)...
...that should give you some of the basics behind what reacts and what doesn't, and why... and at least some of the underlying theory. As for actually finding ways to apply it, well... tell ya what... tell me what you want to build (plastics, catalysts, whatever) or what you want to practice (techniques of isolating compounds, distillation, simple molecular conversions, whatever)... and I'll be more than happy to give ya tutorials on how to do something along those lines with stuff you've got around the house.
...or, if you'd prefer to accept "mystery missions," that could be educational too.
Welcome to lab tips, 'n glad to have ya here!
Where to Start?
Re: Where to Start?
That comes in a few years, and the first parts of it in the first months. 
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